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8 Years living in Patagonia Chile as a Gringo

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hello to everybody out there i’m live today my hair is all kind of wanky from getting out of the shower i hope everybody can hear me [Music] let me get the microphone make sure it’s going here keep the microphone going if you can hear me let me know if you are out there uh and i see one person in the room right now might just be me a little bit of latency and echo um but i appreciate it seeing and hearing me okay four people in the group good hey david how’s it going can you hear me okay [Music] hello there’s thomas well hey roberto como esta from miami how’s it going my live streams are driven by your questions typically and uh i don’t i don’t have a moderator helping me so um you have to bear with me while i respond to people too okay well today this it marks um the eighth year that i um um hold on one second [Music] this is the eighth year that i’ve lived in chile actually this morning we would have been landing in chile right about now and uh so for for us this is really cool hello kiki santos uh logan hey logan how’s it going thank you david happy anniversary please ask questions everybody can everybody still hear me okay um i had to cut off my speakers because there’s a bit of latency i use hughes net which is a satellite uh internet and there’s a bit of lag in their latency they call it so uh so eight years laurie eight years ago today actually almost this very hour uh we arrived in chile and um we uh well uh it was laurie uh samuel who was then about 17 andrew who was about almost 16 uh thomas lori and i and our other children are in the united states then and they were adult children or our child we have one child’s passed away so uh we arrived in santiago chile we had some friends who were kind enough to host us and rented us their house for a year and a half and um uh so we ended up coming here and it was really nice we looked at uruguay as well uh david b asked me um uh did you always plan on living in the south of chile do you explore uh drier pro i did explore the north we everybody that comes here has to come in through santiago and i’ve been through the midwest and the west um the badlands new mexico and el paso and texas i’ve been there and i’m not a dry guy i like green and i like green and i like water and for us it ended up we ended up here so we started driving down the country of chile which is very long and narrow and we’re about 12 hours south of chile of santiago in chile and we drove until we uh well we were running from a friend here when uh our host family for a year and a half so we’re headed to their house but when you get about los angeles in chile it’s about in the middle of the country from there south it starts to get greener and greener and greener and it’s so green here that we get six to eight feet of rain a year most of that’s in the winter time which is right now right now it’s winter time it rained all night long last night when did it become okay for whites to insult themselves i love insulting myself uh i i like to insult myself i really do because um uh i’m a gringo and i’m not from here it’s not an insult in chile it just means you’re not from here and uh i’ve lived lots of places where i’m not from and if i arrest or i uh absorb uh a derogatory comment about myself then it’s my comment i’ll tell you i also used to be a squid on a submarine that’s a really big insult to call somebody a squid and if you call them a bubble-headed squid that’s even a bigger insult but i was a bubble-headed squid so go ahead and call it to me all day long yeah so it’s okay for whites to insult themselves or specifically me to insult myself for a couple of good reasons i have a really good sense of humor first of all i try to i never take myself too seriously and i’m not easily insulted because i accept everybody on the content or the character so what other questions you have we got nine people out there 11 people out there i appreciate the one thumb up very kind of you whoever did that i should say who did and didn’t do that but that’s fine um uh and again uh because there’s always new people coming in and uh i wanted to do this today because we are here uh today is our eighth anniversary in chile and uh been here eight years today and um so i had explained earlier that uh three of our children came with us they were minors when they came and now we’re left with one thomas who’s still here with us lori and i on the on our little homestead in the south of chile uh ask questions please please ask questions because this live stream is about what you want to know uh anything is pretty much open for for questions if it isn’t that i’ll let you know um so um uh i’m waiting for your questions if you have them i hope everybody can hear me okay i think david you said the audio and camera was good for you uh what was your opinion on uruguay oh uruguay okay i went to uruguay two times i went in november 2010 in november of 2011. in november of 2010 i went to uruguay with a friend of mine eric from south carolina that’s where i’m from and we spent 10 days driving around the country we rented a car and drove all the way big circle around the country and just to see what it was like and we liked it we ate our way around the country uruguay has the most awesome meat in all of south america you hear argentina is but actually uruguay produces more uh two-thirds more beef than than argentina does so um that being said i’m a former beef farmer i guess i am now since we have have uh some steers on the farm now uh but in uruguay there’s a saying that cattle go there to die so um we went there eric and i did my buddy liked it enjoyed it and a year later we went again and uh the second time i went i took lori thomas samuel and andrew thomas was just a little munchkin he was like three or four and we went and we rented a car and drove around the country the opposite way and we were there 10 days and um the the problem with uh uruguay was it has absorbed a lot of the problems from argentina long story short and we ran into a gringo in uruguay that said don’t move here if i was you i moved to chile go look at chile and we had we had friends here that we knew from south carolina and they hosted us so we came here sighed unseen and actually had sold our house at that point pretty much and um packed all our bags and sold everything up loaded the container and left it there and then ordered for it later and came to chile on a hope than a prayer that it would be right for us and it turned out good uh any regrets moving to chile my biggest threat roberto is that i didn’t move here sooner some of you may know by my videos i have a really bad neck it’s not just the fat here that’s enough i mean i got i got three or four rolls there i don’t have one roll and uh i have a genetic just a bit dispositioned to being a chunkin but um anyhow uh in my neck i have two bars of titanium and six metals or steel screws or titanium screws and um my my whole back spinal column’s been deteriorating over the years i’m 58 now i’d wish i my gran biggest regret is not moving here 25 years earlier so uh that’d be 32 years ago i’d like to have moved here because then i could have done got so much more done and my kids could have all my kids could have spent some more time here all of my children have been here all of our children have been here um but only uh one of them two of them thomas our youngest and samuel live here in chile samuel is our middle our third child out of six samuel is married to a chilean chilena and he lives in eureka so next question 13 people two thumbs up thank you was there other country outside of south america you guys thought about moving to as well yes i did david good question uh in my navy service my military service i was on uh nuclear submarines for four years and in 1987 i saw a total of six weeks of daylight in the whole year and that’d be like an hour here a half a day here two days there uh i went all over the mediterranean the south and north atlantic and we went into several ports throughout there i never got to the far east uh on the surface i was underwater in those areas and i never got to um the middle east either a lot of the mediterranean and in high school i was an exchange student in france as well so i knew about france uh and i like france all right um uh but i didn’t want to live there um i went to italy sardinia uh just a little bit of pulled into a port in spain wrote us in uh uh england scotland don’t really want to be there other than say hi went there and the islands were pretty cool too for me i didn’t want to be anywhere that was too hot or too cold and chile is kind of uh um chili is kind of uh not too hot and not too cold where i am to be clear in the north of chile is the driest desert in the world some people don’t know about the the weather and the topography and the climate here and then the further south you come down chile it’s 3 000 miles long approximately the the greener it gets and we’re in the temperate forest zone which is like oregon or washington state so um it’s very wet and very green here even year round and it’s winter time right now and i’m looking outside the window you guys can’t see out it but outside the window there’s green grass there’s lots of leaves on the tree and even trees even this time of year so uh why didn’t i move to some of the other countries uh david i i didn’t really want to go into like the the the eastern the far east like uh asia uh china because that’s such a foreign culture to me uh i don’t have a problem with foreign cultures i just have a problem understanding them and speaking the language and it would have been such a great adjustment for me that i didn’t think i was capable of it and i didn’t want to take my kids down that trail either so much um so uh somebody dinging in on there so what i decided was all right it was gonna either be north central or south america canada is too cold and it’s too communist for me united states got has its issues already uh i’ve been to mexico and central america when i was flying commercially i used to fly dc3s and uh anything else in between there all over north and central america in the islands um it was too hot for me i didn’t really enjoy summertime 12 months of the year it just it just didn’t it became uh the opposite of winter time all the time i didn’t like that and chile definitely has four seasons where i’m at so i’m sorry getting a little scruffy throat there so uh spanish for us was an easy language easier language to learn than maybe russian or um czechoslovakian or german german i could probably learn french i used to speak fluently but i try my best to forget it because it messes with my spanish um but learning farsi or learning some languages in africa or chinese that would just my brain is just not as plastic as it used to be hope that answers your question 14 people in the room five thumbs up thank you very much um yes so we thought about uruguay we thought about ecuador very strongly as well um we had friends in ecuador i still do we had some friends in our in our chat group that are in that are in our chat group or recently and they just moved to chile from ecuador and were giving us the scoop on it and it hasn’t changed in the perspective we have the same perspective as what we did before we left and some people are very happy in ecuador but for us uh we found there was a lot of green ghost centric crime uh and and violence and we didn’t like that in other words um in in in ecuador the population or short brown people and um not a big deal but i’m not a short brown guy and if you’re in a big public square or anywhere you’re the big walking atm and i didn’t like that and in chile that’s not so predominant there’s really um uh there’s a lot of german heritage people here um which uh brought with that a little whiter character not that i want white particularly but i didn’t want to stand out as a not being from here and if i went to china or i went to the philippines or i went to thailand or somewhere like that or japan that i would really stand out and i really didn’t want to do that i wanted to try to assimilate and i know many chileans who are very brown skinned and they look uh very hispanic in that regard and they their name is is guillermo or or klaus and uh so the the race is intermixed here there’s very little almost i would say no racism to a degree in chile and so it’s great because i don’t really care what color so my skin is but the other side is is there’s there’s red haired guys with really white fair skin and freckles here her name’s jose and they don’t speak any german at all so but you know that they’re of german descent and it’s really an interesting makes for really beautiful people actually and because of that uh we have been blessed that we fit in people think i’m i’m colonial is what they call you here i’m german and so that is it hey teresa um spotty signal good to see you teresa is in our chili expat family chat group she is one of our moderators there and she is just a sweetheart herm peanut um theresa is i i love you teresa that’s all i can say so thank you for much uh watching the blue angels wow cooly cool cool cool to hear so um 15 in the room six thumbs up thank you very much any uh more questions about uh the move or how we got here i guess i could go down that trail um we when we moved decided to move here um we uh booked out of miami we rented a car from south carolina and drove all the way down to miami and then flew out of there straight into santiago always get a direct flight if you can help it if it’s especially if it’s multiple people hey rocket fuel mentioned sending for your shipping container yes reasonable to drive rb truck yes it is um uh reasonable i don’t know what’s reasonable it would be an adventure and it would be an awesome adventure um i have a friend here in chile actually you know two people now and he drove uh the little short yellow school buses not the long ones he bought a short bus you know like i used to ride to school a short bus and he bought a short bus and converted it into a van a camper and brought his family of his wife and three munchkins in the like two weeks after they got here his wife had a baby and they took six months to drive from wisconsin all the way to portawak thai chile obviously they didn’t go underwater or anything and they didn’t do the evil knievel thing across the panama canal they caught a ship around to colombia and then they they bounced all the way down until they got to chile uh they said it was an adventure of a lifetime and they loved it um there are some issues with bring a vehicle into chile you can bring it in but you can’t leave it in chile’s really protectionist about importation of automobiles unless it’s a classic automobile or something screwy like that they aren’t real happy about it so anyways i hope that answered that question uh you mentioned sending for your shipping container i did um well before i left the united states i knew i was coming here and i was anticipating not not understanding what the the lay of the land would be here that makes sense you know i don’t know what i’m jumping into until i got here and you need a bit of exit strategies and some plan b’s and c’s and whatever and um i had a property that i lived in that we owned and i had an adult son who was waiting to go away the military and basically uh we were able to postpone the sale of that property because i was selling it to a high school buddy and my son actually worked for him at the same time so i was able to call my son from chile and say i need this because i can’t get it here can you go get it and put it in the container use it and put it in the container and he would do that now some of you are wanting to know what is the process for uh bringing a container here and um uh and if you want the gory details you can do a couple things you can watch some of my oldest my oldest videos me bringing my container here was just a video i did for the family go look that up it actually shows i’m loading up the container in south carolina and then unloading it here uh and it was really uh it’s a nice video to watch even though it’s not very pristine and it’s not polished but uh i used a company called uh allison shipping and i’ve referred them to no less than 10 people since then and they have everybody that has used it has been extremely happy uh i have in our chili expat family group our chat group which is for our um paypal club members they’re in that group is an immigration attorney and uh um he also does real estate and he also does importation for people’s personal things uh rent rent the wave hey jim been a while since i’ve turned that oh good to see you man thank you uh how big is the american community in your area i would say robert roberto my my community here in puerto octah is not very big at all lori and i made a can make a concerted effort to avoid north americans to a large degree somewhat as far as living in a community of people because we didn’t come here to make a little united states we moved to chile to become chileans and we never can fully become a chilean there’s such a rich culture in people but we can make a good effort to be a part of the community in that regard so that includes trying to learn spanish and all that thing rocket fuel interesting yes i have a short bus blue bird uh that’s an adventure for sure yes uh he said the biggest expense for him was his clutch went out somewhere along the way going over the andes i think into ecuador or something and he had to had to go play that game but he’s a mechanic so for that um so no robert roberto there is not a large community near us per se uh we don’t live in close proximity to many gringos for the most part maybe one and those are people that hi that have worked with me um some of you may not know that i do consultation to help people move to chile to answer their questions and i do that through our chili expat family chat group and through the youtube channel and i do consultation directly with people too and i also sell real estate here i sold real estate in south carolina for uh 23 years i appraised i was a commercial appraiser actually commer appraised the capitol building state of south carolina and a lot of other really big big buildings there the port of charleston medical university charleston a bunch of other stuff i did so um we don’t hang out with too many gringos per se and we do have parties and some come over but we look for people that are chilling as well we have a lot of chilean friends that don’t speak any english as well but uh we do attract attention to people who speak english so we tend to run into those people there is a a mennonite church in puerto octah and a lot of those families i think there’s six or eight families there i think four of those families are north americans so we do have that in common and they run the local hardware store the really wonderful people and i’m able to do business with them and it’s really nice because i can call and they can get what i want 17 people in the chat are in the in the live stream 24 minutes in um if you’re new and you just came in i’m celebrating today being our eighth year in chile um the today is our eighth year that we arrived in chile when we arrived we everything right now goes into santiago if you fly into chile uh that’s in that’s in a bit of a change as in port oman is soon supposed to be opening before the virus thing took effect uh was supposed to be opening as a port of entry as well and it just they didn’t do that they put it on hold because of the stupid virus but anyways back then in 2013 um wow that long ago uh we landed here on july 10th and uh we had friends and they had two houses they had a house in the south and they had a house in the north of chile as well um and uh they rarely came to this house down here in the south and they said hey would you mind staying at our house for us i said sure so we rented their house from them for a year and a half and in that time we knew that that we wanted to be on a little bit bigger piece of property they only had one acre a half to hector give or take one acre and we decided we wanted a little bit more land of that actually we want a whole lot more land of that i don’t have them didn’t have the money so we were looking for land and over that period and at that same time um they were still in in santiago um and they had been here seven years when they decided to leave and they decided because the day they got here they didn’t like chile um in all honestly i do not like santiago i don’t find any redeeming qualities in santiago and but but in all fairness to santiago uh it’s a nice enough city it’s modern um the subway system before they burn it was pretty nice uh the overall you could buy anything you really wanted to get in santiago uh it was pretty pretty much available it was easy to navigate santiago even on the interstates but it was a big nasty city and i don’t like any cities i do not like cities at all uh to me they’re kind of i don’t know glorified prisons to a degree so we spent about um we landed we spent about almost two months in santiago and uh we bought our automobile there actually our toyota which is the best place to buy a car because there’s a whole in santiago because there’s a whole lot more um selection in santiago why chili’s compared to argentina brazil etc portugal’s really funky uh language and i wasn’t about portugal brazil i didn’t feel it was very safe i’ve been to argentina jm and um good question and the argentinians are extremely corrupt extremely corrupt uh we actually know families in south carolina really good friends still today that i talked to i’ll be it wouldn’t be surprised i wouldn’t be surprised at all seeing one of them jump into our chat into this live stream right now um and they told me jim i know you want to move to south america but please and these are people from families from argentina please do not move do not move to argentina save yourself a lot of pain and trouble because it’s so corrupt it’s corrupt from the top all the way down uh you have to bribe people to get anything done in that country and i just really wasn’t into that and it’s it’s just a bureaucratic nightmare uh i didn’t like when i went there seeing in the airports um people walking around with uh the police walking around with black uniforms with uzis in the airport now i know that in santiago the cops they got a gun on their hip just like in the united states but they aren’t walking around with an uzi i mean a weapon of mass destruction uh and that kind of creeped me out and argentina just cannot be an adult they just can’t they can’t get their economic situation together because they can’t get their corruption together and to me that’s really sad because it’s a beautiful country lots of beautiful people in it but they just love that uh they love that um well yeah pinochet saved chile yeah but he did some bad things too and uh i like pinochet some of his policies but i hated some things about polish um can you thrive in chile without knowing spanish um yeah you can but not for long you gotta know spanish and you gotta learn spanish jm heather life um healthier life a heavier life healthier life uh um there you need to realize and i’m uh i don’t say i’m a crazy libertarian i’m more conservative than anything else i’m not a republican i’m not a democrat for sure and they have right here and they have the left here before pinochet was a guy named allende and they were extremes they were tyron extremes um and pinochet took a good thing and became a tyrant allende took a bad thing and was immediately a tyrant uh so pinochet did save a lot of things in for chile economically and and stuff and turned it around but pinochet there’s my little bell puppy pinochet did some really bad things too so can you thrive jm and uh without knowing spanish i’ll tell you this this is really interesting um when i landed when we landed here in chile i did not speak any spanish at all now some people will tell you here in chile that i still don’t speak spanish so well um but i can communicate uh spanish is is uh it’s not it’s not as really out there as like farsi or something like that or or russian or polish or but it’s uh i learn and it really this is what it comes to for me i learn by listening i don’t learn by reading my wife lori she learns by reading and she can read something and remember it of course she won’t ever sound like a chilean and i won’t either but um i learned by listening to chilean speak and that’s how i learned and i’m i’m like the communicator in our family my wife will not talk to the people on the phone at the hospital about her appointment to see the doctor to um update her medications for thyroid or whatever hello elvira from texas uh she’ll make me do it okay and i always joke with her i said well what are you gonna do when i die who are you gonna have talk for you you know so um but so i learned by listening so we got off the airplane we didn’t speak a word of spanish when we got here i took french in high school when i was an exchange student in high school in france for about six months i don’t know and i learned to speak french in three months flat by listening i got a really long interesting story about that but i don’t want to bore you too much i thought it would be the same thing when i got here to chile that i would learn to speak spanish that way but i had a 50 year old brain uh when i got here and it it didn’t want to learn as well as it used to when i was 18. so the younger you are the easier it is and the more the the more uh plastic your brain is plus you get more interaction with people when you’re younger the the probably the worst thing for my ability to learn spanish is because i listen and that’s how i learn through hearing is that we don’t have uh much interaction with spanish-speaking people in our house because i speak with my wife and my son in english and um and i could speak to him in spanish but they prob they probably punch me or something so um so it’s important to learn spanish so you can do business and to know whether or not you’re being taken advantage of and you don’t want to be taken advantage of so i hope that answers your question jm 19 people down a little bit we had 24 there for a while thank you for the thumbs up the people give me thumbs up this video should not be monetized unless youtube decides to monetize it i want you to know that i don’t monetize any of my newer videos i only keep the ones that are currently monetized monetized the old ones then that is because i don’t make any money off youtube and i don’t want them to make any money off me but they did a little kind of screw around thing and said well we’re going to make money off you even even then and i just don’t really think it’s uh fair to give you guys a lot of commercials because i could like i could interject a commercial right into this video right here right now and then not like i’m gonna make some money off of you guys gonna go buy socks today or or um wait there’s more you know i’m not gonna do that to you guys and i i really get tired of commercials and i i’ve always felt that that youtube is is supposed to be driven by the people that produce videos and it’s no longer that and and part of that is that was the uh the the advertisement that they do and how they do it i mean if i’m gonna get i don’t know 16 people on and they’re viewing me and i’m whatever youtube’s making money off of us right now okay and for me that’s uh okay that’s fine they’re providing me the platform to do it and i understand all that but i did i really didn’t want to um i just got so tired of their game because they’re always changing the rules and that brings me to my next topic why did i move to chile eight years ago um uh in 2000 uh let’s see how’s the weather there compared to south carolina’s are you bothered by the cold winters and the amount of rain uh south carolina carolina ae savandra uh sabiendra um south carolina is is like scalding hot over the top hot in the summertime and uh i did not like that and i grew up there i i remember 118 degrees in south carolina putting up barbed wire chasing cows um and the winter times in south carolina i remember ice skating on my parents pond when i was a kid it was minus and that’s extreme but that that happens uh i don’t have that extreme here in chile uh the average temperature where i’m at in the los lagos region is around 70 degrees that’s the average we’ve had about 10 or so hard frosts this winter but it’s normally running in the mid 40s to 50s here and when it’s raining which is raining as warm weather i mean if it’s really cold then it’s snow uh and we’ve only had snow once in eight years and it lasted 15 minutes it was kind of funny it lasted long enough for thomas to get his snow stuff on and go outside and it was gone poor kid i was gonna cry um so i’m i’m i’m okay with the amount of rain and it’s really interesting it’s a it’s a thing here in chile’s chileans work whether it’s raining or not they don’t care you’ll see the the wonderful farm workers out here are just really cool they’ll be out there buckets of rain pouring on them and i’ll say hey man you okay there or see him walking down the road you want to ride i’m okay it’s just it’s like oh it’s a nice soft day and they call rain here the tears of christ and i think that’s just a very endearing description of the rain in chile it can get a little dismal especially for those of us who suffer from some depression and i do but whenever i find myself getting in that that pit i dig myself out fast so i don’t go spiraling down so uh no i don’t miss uh south carolina’s heat or humidity and i don’t miss the uh the the snow there either hey michael kennedy good to see you how’s it going um 21 people in in the in the chat right now so if you’re here and you’re in the chat say hello please and i hope you’re enjoying the conversation um today i’m talking about having moved to chile eight years ago in my experiences since i’ve been here and this this uh live stream is driven by your questions i i don’t uh run my channel for entertainment purposes per se other than is it’s other than how entertaining i can be it’s more or less to be informative to you as is and uh if teresa’s can is in here still i don’t know if she is or not she’ll tell you um my group is as well our chat group in telegram which we have right now 56 families and um you’re welcome ae savandra you’re welcome noe problema uh yeah my pleasure uh geo geek hello from england hey uh geo my son is in england he is in uh where is he uh he’s in lincoln heath um hold on a second i’ll text him just a minute misty he uh he’s got another year or so there he’s getting ready to come back so um anyways i digress i got off track there what was i talking about 20 people in the room thank you for the thumbs up so um my channel is not about being uh entertaining as much there’s some entertainment because i’m i like a sense of humor but my channel and our chat group is well fifth like i said we have 56 members in our chili expat family chat group and telegr telegram right now both of those those ch those avenues for me are here uh to inform you help you guys decide whether or not uh chile is right for you or not right for you or somewhere else and to to help you open your mind and think outside your box outside london ready to move to chile geo geek you need to be in my chili expat family chat group which is in telegram you have to be a paypal club member um you are not uh charged a monthly fee it’s it’s uh you donate and it’s donations driven um i don’t tell you how often or how much it’s it’s on your honor and people have been very kind to us to help us do that and you can ask questions all day long geo geek about hey how much are cars in chile um are groceries expensive in chile how about vegetables how are the vegetables like do they have ginger in chile fresh ginger yes they do uh can i buy hot chocolate there yes um what are the schools like in chile uh i need to buy some land in chile what’s land like their house what are the prices on land um all those things come in to the the group and and uh i have a group of moderators some people are already in the group are already here and um so they’re answering those questions and as well so it’s not just my biased opinion because i do love chile but um chili’s not right for everybody okay and i’m here to help you figure out if chili’s right for you uh i found it it’s our it’s our little spot of heaven so i i really have enjoyed my my stay here uh how’s the mail system in southern chile it is it’s not bad at all it’s slower than the us but i don’t complain about that michael kennedy i really don’t um the uh the reason i don’t complain is is that it could be a whole lot more expensive it’s like when you first get to chile and you think oh everybody’s poor everybody’s rich or is this third world is it second world is it for and and i drive down and i don’t see really manicured lawns and leaf blowers and guys out there with weed eaters and things like that and and i don’t and and and i had to change my mindset because if i go anywhere in south carolina and i go down the road i’m going to see somebody a road crew out there running weed eaters making everything all fancy schmancy beautiful and that cost me tax dollars so it’s a change of your mindset about um about okay do i want to pay more money for something that’s really not going to help them or me or anybody no i think there’s a lot of a lot of gasoline wasted on this planet running leaf blowers and weed eaters to tell you the truth sheep man they’re the best lawn mowers in the country and you get to eat at the end of the year anyways uh also geogeek if you want to get a hold of me i’ll put you uh my my email here real quick can’t read there you go properties of chile gmail.com that will get you in touch with me and um the other thing you can do is um paypal and also the link to there as well um and in if you paypal me a donation uh put a message on it it’ll tell me who you are and there’s my paypal uh club link and then you become a member of my paypal club you make a donation to me and then uh i am at your service and i will uh call you and interview you and make sure you’re not much crazier than me and whatever on the same plane uh the rules for our chiliax family chat group is you must be kind to people i mean i’m not saying don’t be a wimp and not argue because we do that a lot of that in there i’m just saying there’s no profanity and you have to treat people like you would better than family because i have family who i i don’t talk with um and a lot of us do so there’s no profanity there are no anonymous people in our group no anonymity and um uh it’s it’s your questions driven so uh sounds like geo geek that would be a great link up for you to be in there okay and there are 56 families united states canada singapore england norway sweden uh india dubai australia new zealand uh there’s probably some more in there or not i mean with 56 people i really korea i stop i start to forget uh who’s in there hey james dorchek from england there’s my son i love you jimmy and i miss you jimmy is my uh our oldest son out of six children he’s not the oldest but he’s our second child so nerd planet greetings from the francisco [Music] uh francisco hey brother what’s going on how’s the car going how the cars business uh nerdplanet’s a good friend of mine uh really good guy that’s somebody you need to know the thing is is who you know then correct me if my correct me if i’m wrong nerd plan in chile’s who you know not what you know about getting things done and good people attract good people and i greatly appreciate your friendship and uh nerd planet he is um uh he’s trained so yeah good guy uh i’m part of the group oh yeah i knew that from washington yes i do thank you michael and look i i michael have you enjoyed the groups a question thank you son i love you too my son says i love you uh perfect i’ve been looking at land for sale thanks jim yeah listen uh geo geek i put property uh videos up and and i primarily work with buyers but i have a few sellers myself actually i have a lot coming on the market soon which is about one acre lot uh give or take um no i’m sorry it’s two point four two and a half acres give or take um i just have to come up with a price for it with the seller but any case uh but it’s a high dollar piece of property too uh i work with buyers and when i work with buyers uh my buyers compensate me a hundred and fifty thou a hundred thousand pesos a day which is about 150 a day and that’s for my time and then uh they pay for my gas too wow this is really getting bad jim it’s nothing like the united states no it’s not it’s not because it’s who you know it’s it’s not what what you know so much okay and um i drive and i’ve driven 14 15 hours in one day from before the sun came up till after the sun came down going three or four hours north of us looking at property and then driving all the way back down the country another two hours south the next day so i i can and eat up a lot of money really quick and gasoline and stuff showing property and people uh so people can get a feel what’s going on and so what i do is i charge you a hundred dollars a hundred hundred thousand pesos 150 dollars us dollars a day give or take in my gasoline and if you buy real estate from you i charge you three percent as a buyer broker fee and then i credit back to you that hundred dollars or 150 dollars for every day that then you paid me and so you get a you get a credit on that so that’s the way it goes uh so let’s see here uh who is in england geek if you look my son james storchick’s in here so i love the group i don’t interact much as i should in the group at the moment yeah that’s good just been busy wrapping up all the usa stuff uh house remodel sale and then i’m headed south oh uh you and 56 other people hey michael tell everybody what what you can a little bit about your experience you see you love the group how are the people in there and what do we talk about um i’ll let him you know give an unbiased opinion but i should explain that’s the chili expat family chat group is in telegram it’s a private by uh donation group only and then out of chili expat family chat we have two other groups one is this uh two other subgroups okay and and those are moderated by other individuals that i didn’t originate them they originated them but i’m in those groups and one of them is an off topics group where we talk about the intricacies and difference between green tractors red tractors and blue tractors they talk about religion and politics the whole thing and i what i did i did that so that people could argue their arguments out there and have commonalities in the big group okay and then the other subgroup is a group that is uh is a property investment group okay hold on a second um so yeah let’s see here i love the group i don’t okay and nerd planet industrial maintenance and auto shop biz are doing well oh yeah yeah yeah cool cool uh you are welcome uh i’m telling you this guy nerd planet you want to know him if you move to chile i have never met you francisco in person am i right but man he is my brother he is better than my brother he’s a nice guy my brother’s not a nice guy um and and he’s just been a wonderful help to uh uh he’s just been a wonderful help to get to help people that have gotten in trouble here in chile that uh i don’t mean with the law or anything they just have problems they need to get them taken care of quickly and he’s just been a wonderful resource and i think i learned i learned met you through my youtube channel if i remember right so anyways francisco i love you brother you need to come down here and i need to make you some real food okay uh michael kennedy everyone is friendly always yep that is uh topics from general lifestyle to pollock’s real estate tips and tricks and just con conversations yep they’re always happy with help they’re always in there in the group right now discussing the cobit nightmare and it’s a nightmare up in the united states and uh it’s a nightmare everywhere else uh my son jimmy in england’s texting me he says i double dog dare thomas to walk behind dad as he livestr while he’s live streaming actually if you wind the video back jimmy you’ll see that he did walk behind me mom lori will not do that lori doesn’t like being on video uh yep we did meet on youtube yes very good so i don’t get north so much um that’s that’s kind of like dry and dusty up there and and i think uh francisco nerd planet he want to get down this way but i could be wrong but you know my door is open and i i really like cooking and some of you may not know that i do catering here in chile which is um uh king of sauce chile is my business and i sell barbecue sauce peanut butter i can’t remember what else but like several different barbecue sauces and part of that is catering and i love cooking because it brings people around the table of all different languages all different races and religions and everybody talks and they talk friendly and and sometimes not friendly but they talk and that’s great they can get to to go together as soon as i finish the biodiesel conversion trials okay that sounds like a good thing i want to learn how to do biodiesel but you know i have a gasoline vehicle so so you don’t if you do not know right now gasoline is extremely expensive in chile it’s always extremely expensive but it’s gone up about let’s say it’s gone up 20 cents a gallon in the past year 100 pesos maybe 200 pesos and to fill up my gas the other day was 100 my tank was 150 dollars and that was really quite painful so it limits where i go what i do because i’m on limited income i live on a pension that’s all i live on for all three of us so um all right let’s see we got 20 people 16 thumbs up thank you um if you’re just coming in today i’m discussing about our coming are moving to chile eight years ago and how much uh we loved it michael kennedy 150 us usd i don’t what are you asking me us dollars yeah no yeah 150 u.s dollars yeah that’s what you’re asking about my gasoline yeah that’s what it cost me to fill my tank it was about uh about 60 liters 80 liters i can’t remember how many liters my toyota prado had actually francisco how big is my gas tank on my car he would know uh for gasoline yeah for gas man it’s like yeah it’s like i was having a heart attack is painful painful chile imports all their energy uh chile has huge coal mines that they close down here because it’s illegal it might harm the environment if we burn coal and then they go around turn around and import it yep like 150 usd feel the tank on my yeah that’s right it’s painful it’s like a nose bleed you feel like somebody cut off a body part potter’s tank 75 liters there you go and this guy is such a good mechanic i don’t have a good mechanic and it’ll let you know francisco i have not removed my starter yet i know it’s only three bolts that hold it on uh but i need to get that off of there and get me a new one i’m gonna try and source it down here if i can right now my starter on my toyota prado which is the same as the toyota land cruiser it’s a gasoline car it uh the solenoid’s not doing right on it it’s not not engaging the flywheel and eventually i’m gonna go and it’s going to go and it’s not going to start the car and right now it’s going that you know i feel like i’m on uh what’s that show drive time or something anyhow so uh while comparable usa prices is it okay yeah yeah um that’s a lot of money i think the usa the gasoline is a lot cheaper but i will say in chile it makes really good sense to buy diesel vehicle they have a lot of them here there’s more parts for them here they go further on a gallon of fuel than or a liter of fuel than a gasoline car does they’re more dependable or just i was i was i have a confession i bought a gasoline vehicle and i shouldn’t have done it and um had i been able to get a diesel prado i probably would have done that and uh had my wife not been so adamant that i get a suv i actually would have got a four-door pickup truck toyota which would have been my way of going yeah diesel’s way cheaper so uh 19 people in the room 17 thumbs up thank you very much um what other questions do you guys have out there for me today uh back to the topic of discussion is eight years here in chile okay well we’re almost an hour and so i’m going to start telling you about what our plans are for the future since we’ve been here eight years and i hope another eight years i’ll be here um it is my my wish that when my day comes when my great great or bad reward whichever god uh judges me then i’d be buried in chile i i find chile to be just a wonderful beautiful place to be um and for me this is where i plan to be in the long haul how is the citizenship lucas bridges hey lucas how is the citizenship process going have you guys been able to apply yet i could have applied three years ago lucas and i didn’t hey jeremy from alabama jeremy is a member of the chili expat family group are that is your little icon strawberries are you just picking on me i just want to know lucas how is the citizenship process going um i am not a citizen of chile i’m still a citizen of the united states and i probably always will be because it costs i don’t know thirty five hundred dollars to surrender your citizenship citizenship in the u.s uh i’ve never been a member of a club where you had to pay to not be a member of the club but anyways that’s the united states and to join or to become a citizen of chile there are not a lot of reasons to do it i can vote here actually i’ll vote here soon in the next election i voted in one of the previous elections uh they sent me the voting stuff and said i must vote actually since i’ve been here so long and that’s really i guess important since i do own land and i have an investment here so i have not applied i’ve been able to apply for over three years i could have done it actually four years ago uh it’s pretty simple once you get you do it but i haven’t done it yet rocket fuel how does diesel truck cost in u.s dollar clearance get down puppy so you buy insurance and then the insurance company gets between you and the auto body shop and all that are chileans in general friendly to americans yeah elvira they’re really friendly to americans i think a lot of chileans want to be american uh in in many ways they want what the united states has um this here’s a little this here’s a little little analysis there i guess if you i was importing products here from chile for a little bit which is not economical it’s very difficult to do and it’s difficult to do because the chilean government charges 26 on importation uh and it’s more it’s more nasty than that actually but anyhow um when i was importing this product i would bring it to my clients and i’d say because i was i was a distributor i’d say uh i have labels that i stickers that i can put over these u.s labels that are in spanish so that uh your spanish customers can can know what it is he’s oh no no no don’t do that don’t don’t was like really why he says don’t cover over the english chileans want english but they don’t understand what it says she says don’t worry i’ll tell them what it does you just get it here that’s so that’s that’s the thought there uh they want what americans have and um chileans are not um uh they’re not anti-american there are some that are very anti-american but that’s i mean that’s there’s people that are stupid everywhere i guess but uh overall chileans uh enjoy americans and they enjoy interacting with north americans i i really should point out something elvira chileans were americans before americans were americans they’re in south america they’re still americans uh so you think about it and and that’s the way to go thanks jim and rocket fuel going to need to save a little more what no you can buy a used car here man you can get a little bit cheaper um uh my toyota has i don’t know how many miles are on it crazy too many miles and what you do is you buy a good quality used vehicle and nerd in nerdplane will tell you this too francisco and that um you buy a good used car and you fix it fix it up and they go forever and ever and ever you don’t buy a piece of junk you buy something that’s nice like a toyota which are all over the place here they just go and go and go and go it’s hard to kill a toyota um so that’s that’s your way around it and then you fix it up put a new engine in it or whatever that stuff is is is happening all day long here in chile yeah okay 14 people in the room 18 thumbs up thank you very much uh very much uh questions oh by the way rocket fuel if you get down here and you want to buy a vehicle i’ll put you in pl and touch with nerd planet and and you can talk to him and he’ll find you vehicles am i right francisco you’d do that for him i think he would and uh he’s done it for other people for me uh he’s fixed a friend of mine’s car who couldn’t get it fixed anywhere else and it turned out when he fixed that he found out what was really wrong with it not what the other people said was wrong with it and so you know i think this is wrong with it and it’s gonna cost you you know four thousand dollars but the fact is is that uh it only cost uh a thousand dollars yeah you’re welcome sergio i think of chileans as the first americans because i think chile had people in it before the united states i could be wrong it’s pretty close i mean united states you know 1492 okay he came over but i mean south america that the spanish were down here long before that or 1400s i’m thinking but i could be wrong uh i try to forget that part of history class you’re welcome though sergio and i’m really happy you’re here buddy um but you gotta remember uh people say over the united states of america and usa so that’s why they call themselves american but we adopted customs and their food their customs their food just as any mcdonald’s here i don’t like mcdonald’s in chile but i do like the burger kings in chile when you find them i and i’ve only seen two uh mcdonald’s one in santiago one in portoman in the mall there are no there’s only one burger king that i’ve ever seen and i guess or more in santiago they love barbecue sauce well i have the best barbecue sauce in all of chile i’m sorry i just do hands down king of sauce chili yes and we do purchase in inspections okay yeah oh you do purchase inspections okay so francisco says yeah he’ll be able to help you rocket fuel get a vehicle and he’ll do an inspection for you okay uh you could buy a car sign on scene through him and i’ve had people do that uh you are welcome elvira rockefeller i think there’s a good plan that’s love the community sticking together and helping each other really that’s what my chili expat family chat group has been all about it’s about helping people get together and work with each other and network with each other so you want to come to chile but you’re not sure chile is right for you and you don’t have anywhere to get the the facts you know the truth from people instead of the rosy glasses thing and let me tell you there’s some really bad things about chile that i don’t like and they’re really bad things about the us right now i’m telling you it’s much better here in chile for me than than in the us though so my group lets you ask these questions to be able to ferret out what you want to know about where you’re planning on going to chile and it also gives you the opportunity to meet people who have similar interests that want to move to chile they want to open a business here they’re interested in buying land maybe they’re interested in building a house maybe they’re interested in buying a car all the things that you probably are interested in as well and they want to know those same questions and answers so that’s such an avenue for people to be able to get the information they need to get here and get here competently when laurie and i got here uh we had a host family that were absolutely no use of us other than they rented us their house they didn’t know anything heck when they left we knew more than they did uh they’d come down and visit us at their house and they said oh my car’s broken when they got here i need to go get this electric switch oh so no problem i’ll get it for you later tomorrow or like how you do that we gotta go back to santiago to go no no no i got this guy he’s a friend of mine to get it how did you meet him i said hello to him how are you doing and now we’re friends but you don’t speak spanish and i said no he doesn’t speak english either but i was able to get him his part because you got to be going to get out there gotta put your let your foot get stomped on uh i would like to work as a doctor in chile do you think it’s a good work environment dr guatom you know i have a doctor friend here he’s a really good guy he was the chief of staff at our local little hospital i could put you in touch with him you need to join our group he can give you all the answers he’s actually gone back to medical school or not to school to residency and internal medicine his wife is is a doctor she’s um a gp as well and she’s gone for virology which i think she’s crazy to do that but i could put you in touch with him you need to join our chili expat family chat group and become of that member that and i could i could put you over there upper middle class has become americanized yes it has most of them have traveled the u.s many have yeah and some are fluent yep as well um yeah and you know what even middle class families and i think this is redeeming quality in chile if chile goes i don’t think it’ll ever go full communist with this new constitution their writing and all that stuff because then you get into expropriation of properties and for instance there’s families that are that are work their way up the the the poll from living in the hovels to now having two houses maybe three houses and they’re going to give those properties up and and so the there’s a wonderful thing about capitalism it raises all all uh incoming tide raises all boats yeah just like an outgoing tie puts everybody in the mud equally painful equally miserable yeah salisbury bread bed and breakfast or canada yes they do is that salisbury north carolina i’m just curious um i’ve not been to salisbury bed and breakfast i don’t think in in north america you’re welcome dr gautam um you if you look above in the conversation uh in the comments you’ll see i dropped my uh email in here somewhere where is that yeah properties of chile and there’s my paypal too uh you have to remember my paypal club you donate there’s no set set price and that gets you access to the wider world of the chili expat family chat group and our chat group has been going for over a year now probably a year and a half um and there’s families that come and there’s families that go so no it’s just a funny name left on a port of ours oh okay well good to see you salisbury bed bread and breakfast there’s a place called salisbury north carolina and it’s a nice little community and i’ve been through there and i can’t i i used to do a lot of appraisals throughout the southeast united states commercial industrial properties hospitals ice cream shops it was it was a fun job uh um didn’t play what it should have but it was a fun job so i had to do a lot of traveling i i drive you know i’d be on the road for five days a week and i made a point not to stay at hotels but to stay at b and b’s and that that was my thing we were we reported virus uh four days ago down there going buying some tools for thomas you want one of those japanese pool saws so he can make better cabinets so um you’re welcome oh so thank you very much all right where was i going upper middle class yep okay so uh what questions do you have any questions uh i wonder where the person that’s farthest away today is here uh i always like to think of people like on a ship somewhere how far away they also boating is becoming popular so if you nerd plants you’re going to see that farmers are wearing john deere and driving after yeah that is true yeah uh critical thinker hey there new here what do you think about the idea of buying a small home property as a vacation home not as a full-time residence yep i got uh critical thinkers in dc is that it’s like washington dc like in the middle of it wow that’s crazy um i have a guy that’s in my chat group really nice guy i don’t want to say his name because what goes on in that group stays pretty private actually but uh he is interested in buying a high-end property which i have uh a million four hundred thousand dollar property uh i would not want to be anywhere near washington dc that’s what i would refer to as the center of the bullseye so um here’s some of my isms for you about up there uh um i don’t play games where the rules are always changing or people cheat that’s why i refuse to play a board game with any my uh brother or sisters because they always cheated and they were vociferous about how they cheated and indignant about well they should be allowed to cheat and i realized that the u.s government did the same thing and that really ruined the business environment for me uh another one at the end of the week day month year do you get the feeling that when you you’ve been working for nothing other than paying taxes and government you got to pay your taxes you got to pay your bills your phone bill your water bill your power bill you gotta pay your bills your phone bill your water bill your power bill your insurance bill your other insurance bill and the other insurance bill you may have enough money for health insurance and you gotta pay do you ever feel like at the end of the day the month that you want to say why am i doing this why for what reason i don’t having to show for it uh i’m not getting any wealthier i’m just spinning my wheels i’m paying a lot of people a lot of my money and my time and for no reason uh in in to not to no benefit so for me that’s some of my isms and i felt like i was in the u.s i was a hamster in the wheel and and i was in a tax wheel and i was going and going and going and going and if you got out of that wheel the government stomps on you and puts you back in the wheel they don’t even feed you more uh to me that is uh not worth a life worth living it sounds a lot like being in prison so i don’t have that here so and that speaks to my thoughts about are continuing to live here in chile and why do i want to keep living here in chile i feel safe here okay you’re never really safe everywhere anywhere on the planet i mean i call a drone striking on me i guess but i’m not just talking about government i’m talking about people in general in the united states i grew up in a rural community in boiling springs south carolina i mean you’d have billy bob shooting his wife esther for for uh whatever reason improprieties or whatever uh and that was real common and then it grew to you got people shooting at the the convenience store and then banks and just people shooting because they’re mad the way you drive or whatever and i’m a big gun guy i love guns and uh but there comes a point where the violence is so much that you think to yourself why am i exposing my family to this danger and for me um i don’t have any of that here and that’s not because they don’t have guns because they do have guns i think lori wants to walk behind me but she’s afraid to i’m not afraid hello everybody there she is she’s not afraid carrying the laundry down she’s fighting the good fight so when we moved here um i didn’t feel safe at all in santiago i wouldn’t feel safe in any city i don’t feel safe going to osorno 48 minutes away and it’s only got 100 150 000 people in it so um but um that’s 48 minute drive away from me and there’s not been a murder within a 48 minute drive away from me within the past year the little town that i live in to this day or live near i live about 15 minutes out of town uh has never had a murder in recorded history can you say that about where you live i don’t think so uh it’s it’s it’s really uh disheartening out here people get pissed off at each other yeah but they they sort their differences out it’s safe it’s it’s uh clean um the air is so clean here that i mean the penguins were the last people to breathe the air that i breathe way down in antarctica uh and and that’s almost not a joke you know um so i really enjoy the safety that i have here and you’ll find that chileans correct me if i’m wrong francisco but chileans are very paranoid about their safety that’s why you see so many fences so many gates all that hey luke luke’s there can say that about where i live yeah you can uh you can luke luke lives in the high plains of colorado i believe is that right luke yeah um uh and and he can say that about where he lives too it’s kind of safe um and he’s not saying he’s a jungle but it’s safe there so for me i really enjoyed the safety of uh i enjoy the safety of living here uh i don’t live stupidly i i protect my things i put my tools away i don’t leave my generator out along the side of the road or anything stupid like that for somebody to steal but a lot of times my my doors aren’t locked on my car and uh uh so i i just feel safer here okay i feel like it’s cleaner here and by meaning cleaning here and luke’s been here too and and uh francisco you can chime in about the south you know how clean it is it is excuse me it is just pristine how clean it is here and i think a reason behind that is there’s not many people here chileans think there are a lot of people here but 18 million people heck there are more people in in miami than there are in all of chile you know you’re just guessing but if you’re here in chile and you go to a park you might see one or two people yeah and the air is just so fresh here the food tastes so rich so full so so so um so right so a carrot has so much carrot flavor to it it’s not i mean you can just eat the carrot raw and he’s like wow oh man and i went back to united states and in 2018 for medical appointment and seen my son jimmy and when i did i was just taken aback about how bland the food is it had no flavor it tasted like it was made in a factory grown in a factory killed in a factory put on a styrofoam plate covered with cellophane and sold at walmart everything tasted like that the hamburgers the chick-fil-a the the everything i had to go to a thai restaurant to get food that actually had flavor to it and that’s just because they over spiced the hell out of it which i like don’t get me wrong but here if you eat a potato you could eat a potato just a baked potato here is a meal in itself because it’s so rich in flavor so rich in potato flavor it’s not just styrofoam fluff that you like wow they how do they grow that it’s you can taste the the earth in it you can taste the soil that that that good rich potato flavor is there the carrots are that way the beets are there the cabbage are not like like like basketballs they’re like like beach balls they’re huge the the the all the vegetables here are awesome uh and when you eat food here you realize i’m eating really good healthy food okay um critical thinker how did lanes feel about americans moving here uh or others um they north americans critical thinker they they like north americans pretty much there is was before kobet a really big tourist business in chile um and uh dieter drake if he’s still in here he’ll tell you he’s in our group too and uh will tell you that the chileans locking their borders um uh the chilean borders have been locked and it’s it’s really devastated the the uh the tourist business here um if i’ve been dropping signal let me know uh i don’t know why it may be because i’m using q’s net satellite uh internet nerdplanet uh the patagonia is also big and vast and you hardly bump into some that’s right uh if you go south of where we are uh there’s nobody there i mean that’s like you don’t want to get lost or or broke down on the side of the road there oh the wine uh yeah yeah yeah i never forget the wine chilean wine is awesome and it’s so cheap it’s like water it’s cheaper than well it’s almost the same price as uh uh and it’s really weird because you can buy one of those those little bottles of wine and there are three thousand pesos or four thousand pesos but you buy a big bottle the same wine same mark same winery everything everything and it’s three thousand it’s cheaper for the big bottles i think they want you to to drink more wine hello sergio cazarro if you go past the karatera astral there’s practically no people living there such a beautiful on beautiful and peaceful part of the planet it is and uh lori and i are been here eight years and we haven’t been down there yet we need to go down there we have friends down there we’ve been invited down there uh but it’s always going to take care of the sheep or we don’t have the money for gasoline or uh i gotta buy new starter for the car whatever and i haven’t had the money to go on vacation i should explain that i don’t sleep on the ground anymore i


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