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Sir Richard Taylor: An Unexpected Guest (Pt 1 of 2)

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hi bills hello dominic here we are again the temperatures are absolutely tip-top in this studio it’s fresh like a kind of spring day in england well lovely yeah out in maybe the the moors with a little morning jew listening to kate bush do you ever um wash your face in the morning do what very very good for you so what you mean grab stuff off the grass just yes very gently rub it on your face there oh that’s beautiful and if you’ve seen a lot of invertebrates insects and stuff like that will come out in the very early morning and they’ll stick the cute little bottoms up in the air to catch the jew and then the jew falls down towards their mouth and that’s how they get a little drink in the morning from their butt to their mouth yeah they drink from their anus fantastic stuff maybe something that we could uh incorporate into an episode at some point perhaps how’s the knee knee not great if i’m honest um it’s tight we’ve been getting a lot of very kind advice and guidance from people have you been taking them up on some of these there was one that was very specific i saw that someone sent us on the email thank you very much please keep sending the emails to cast media no friendship onion at cast media.com there’s cats with a k let’s not forget it’s cast with a k now the knee someone sent us a thing who and the person was uh a trained physiotherapist knows what they’re talking about and did start with you know i haven’t seen your knee so take this as like a very general you know thing take it on the chin take it on the knee yeah as it were so but she sent like diagrams and pictures and most of the stuff is what i’m being told to you know do by my man but it was good to hear that confirmed by someone else great and i suppose the thing is you’re only going to get as much better as as much work you put into it and maybe i’m just not doing enough well that’s the thing about things like stretching right it’s preventative meditation i think is in some way like this i don’t necessarily feel the benefits of meditation until i stop doing it and it’s the same with stretching if i because when i start in the gym i’ll probably do less than five minutes of stretching but it’s a little you know toe touch shoulder thing tricep thing if i don’t do that for two or three weeks then maybe i’ll feel it when you and i went away to west virginia south carolina one of north carolina north carolina you would get up probably half an hour 40 minutes before me and invariably when i used to come out of my room walk past your room to head downstairs you’d be in the practice of a little morning stretchy do you remember yeah you dropped that now no i still do that um maybe not as much as i did uh you know sort of every day but much better and i thought you’re you’re a fan of animals love animals my animal my dog loves a little stretch in the morning yeah yeah you know so i think it’s a good thing and otherwise you stiffen up don’t you well it’s it’s very rare if not like doesn’t happen at all that a dog or a cat gets up from a seating position and doesn’t do a downward dog upward dog stretchy i like it when cats just put one paw out as if try to reach to a new galaxy that’s a good one yeah so it’s good a good stretch helps and i think that’s what i need to do and also build up the power of my butt yeah yeah you need to get a bigger ass but we’ve always said that and also the other thing to keep in mind which i’m sure you’re philosophical about as well is we’re almost dead exactly i mean you know i mean we are standing on a rock flying through space a thousand miles an hour only just staying out of the fire ball that we call the sun money is a very very small problem but i’m still working on it good for you should we do a little league of legends update league of legends still not got the graphics has riot sent us the music and now we’ve got nothing we’ve got no graphics okay nothing but i can see it and i’m sure you guys can see it now it’s like i’ll do the echo you do it okay oh nice bills nice nice i feel like it’s like you know like a very heavy piece of maybe metal hits the screen yeah so where are we at with that because not only right not only of sean and elijah backed into a very deep shadow but you and i have not played league of legends together for what two weeks a couple of weeks i think i don’t think i’ve played i did i play the new doctor mundo came out and i like dr mundo and then but he’s gone to the top as i think we talked about this he’s went to the top lane i’m not a fan of the top leader no no because i i get killed all the time i like to stay far away and fire things at people yeah i don’t like it and amongst the free yeah and if i’m not far away flinging things at people i like to be in the jungle yeah out the way are people i like the jungle too i’ve been playing the jungle as well do you have a favorite jungle creature i tell you the the little rock things are hard to kill they keep crugs right cracks that’s what they call them you’re such a geek a complete geek i now am starting to watch the little non-playable creatures in the jungle a snail a frog what else is there is there a mouse in the jungle but my friend from riot jake hello jake if you’re listening who gave us some skins thank you for that very sweet uh i said is there any things that maybe a deep dives into league of legends that we might not know you said there are certain frogs if you stand close next to them they’ll commit suicide so they kind of get a fright and just fall over i wonder you know sometimes i play kaiser yeah why does kaiser release a frog occasionally you’re gonna have to ask jake or ask if anyone out there plays kaiser let us know why uh i i’m terrible at kai i’m just terrible at the game but i like you as kai star you do like crazy damage played against kaiser before and she will destroy people yeah i can never get that powerful well we’ll get there i’m you’ve made me excited to play i want to play this afternoon it’s like surfing it’s just like time in the water we’ll play we’ll play right let’s play now where are we with elijah joining us on the rift where are we on a scale strawberry seeds being the smallest and a watermelon being the top i mean yeah i’m gonna say for me a lemon seed because we’ve not we’ve not lemon seeds yeah we’ve not heard from elijah or sean in regards to league of legends we’ve chat to them about other stuff but they’ve both completely backed off elijah sent us a thing about a vegan restaurant ethiopian food but in no way did they mention the league of legends i think i mean sooner or later we’re right we’re trying as hard as we can to shame the two of them to play and that’s not work any suggestions as to how we get them to play let us know although a friend of mine who uh i was uh on stage with in in london ed ed i don’t know if you’ve met ed what was he on what play he was in um the scottish play do you may have met him you were marvelous now anyway have you seen his banquo ed has moved to canada and he said listening to the friendship onion he said i’m going to download that league of legends and i’m gonna have a go let’s do it he done it he wrote to me he said he died 100 times but they won and he loves it let’s do it but then i got to send them tips brilliant me yeah i was like oh stay under the tower oh it’s not their tower no no the first 10 minutes just get minions yeah so he did all this million bills i feel i felt like a that’s a powerful our friend will who we went down nigel and i went down to see in oceanside also downloaded the game had a lot of questions but we didn’t want to get into it with all of the other beautiful people at the party we didn’t want to kind of cramp the style so we said let’s talk about it later but he’s in as well so we’ll figure out we don’t need frodo and sam no do we you may do actually we might do i would love don’t we play but yeah we do have a guest today a very very special guest my friend dominic i’ll do a little impression which only you will know whether it’s accurate or not or maybe his wife would would don’t do an impression of his wife our guest today kind of talks like this he’s a very well-spoken new zealander born in the uk though born in the uk and also we were saying uh before the show very excited about most things lovely a very passionate wonderful artist we have today we have mr richard taylor of wetter workshops richard taylor who alongside his wife are the founding inspiring members of weta which is arguably the best special effects company in the world certainly one of the busiest certainly one of the biggest and has done such films as william the lord of the rings trilogy three uh the hobbit trilogy six uh mastering commander one should have been more you won the mountains with about 12 to come yeah they they’re amazing taylor and his company created all the props costumes prosthetics miniatures and weaponry for jackson’s epic the lord of the rings and that particular workshop where they do physical effects which are obviously the things that you can you know see and touch and grab hold of like hobbit ears and hobbit feet and armor and things like that alongside digital effects that you can’t grab hold of but you can still see like armies and things like that and miniatures that that whole workshop situation is such an inspiring place to not only work but for us as a cast just to go and and visit like this you turn any corner and the greatest artist that you’ve ever seen is sculpting a little cabbage that maybe you’re holding in yeah or you walk into a room that’s like the size of a football field and there’s menace tariff like completely minas tariff in miniature form carved every window carved so they can get a camera that flies in it’s ah the art in in weta is incredible and i’m very excited to speak to richard it’s been a little while and he’s such a wonderful passionate uh just talented guy yeah so attached to that joyful inspiring i’m a creator kind of vibe right should we get him on the tv now get him on shall we do it john billy you and i have been drinking quite a lot of liquid iv recently haven’t we i like it dom and in the summer and you know how hard it’s been here i like to get one first thing in the morning i know that i’ve hydrated after a good night’s sleep yeah it’s really nice if you’re feeling maybe a little slow in the morning you need something to wake you up not only does it have watermelon but it also has a strawberry and a lemon and lime flavor for your delectation oh i love the lemon lime that’s it give me that all day super tasty stuff uh and also an acai berry and passion fruit flavor as well i think at the moment the strawberry is my all-time favorite flavor it’s got five essential vitamins more vitamin c than an orange and as much potassium as a banana and of course it’s much healthier than all your sugary sport drinks there’s no artificial flavors or preservatives and less sugar 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addiction to cbd yeah fantastic joining the fields monthly membership makes your self-care easy you’ll save money on every order and you can pause or cancel at any time start feeling better with feels become a moment today by going to onion and you’ll get 50 off your first order with free shipping that’s f e a l s dot com slash onion to become a member and get 50 automatically taken off your first order with free shipping fields.com slash onion hello everyone hello richard how’s it going good to see you yeah yeah lovely to catch up thank you for inviting me on and it’s lovely to talk to everyone that uh listens in and really nice to see you both it’s been a very long time yeah too long and you haven’t changed at all richard well well fat fatter and older i think would be fair to say yeah no less enthusiastic and uh certainly still uh loving getting to work in the morning so that’s a good thing well that’s fantastic and we definitely want to talk about weta obviously what what what time is it in new zealand right now so about six o’clock i think oh i know so no uh 7 13 it is right now ah you’ve you’ve probably been working for about three hours already oh yeah yeah no no actually tanya actually came and jabbed me in the ribs and said you’ve got to get out of bed quick you’re going to be late so luckily i only live 10 minutes from work so uh i almost got here on the spot so that’s good now how busy is wetter right now with wetter being one of the most successful busiest studios around how’s the how’s the work detail currently uh it’s been wonderfully busy here at the weta workshop we’ve been crazy actually because of because new zealand has stayed mostly clear of covert a lot of filmmakers have come down to new zealand so that’s meant that the country has stayed pretty busy but we likewise even with outside contracts have stayed pretty good we’ve also been making our own work we uh right through last year we built a uh a large location-based experience in auckland called weather workshop unleashed and that that sort of filled in any gaps that we may have had uh and kept our our team well employed and super busy so does that mean when people come to new zealand now maybe to visit their locations that’s something else that they can go and see in auckland yeah exactly it was all a great idea pre-covert of course we actually started at the beginning of the year but um sadly when covert hit we had already borrowed the money and begun the process and we had a very hard decision to go one way or the other but we decided to carry on uh you know where tanya and i thought about it very very hard and decided if if we bailed on something like this then we’re really not putting our confidence into new zealand sort of bursting back into the taurus scene and we felt it was important we played our part so we carried on and uh at in in early december we opened the doors it’s called where the weather workshop unleashed a fantastical film effects experience so it’s a sort of uh an hour-long walkthrough of this tour a tour guide lead walkthrough of this crazy fictitious and fantastical workshop filled with spaceships and robots and monsters and dinosaurs and creatures and so it’s people people have enjoyed it it’s great because new zealand the auckland visitors have embraced it and we’ve had a lot of people through and a lot of lovely comments and it’s it’s at its heart it’s my desire to try and inspire the love of creating with your hands uh you get to make sculpture and you get to draw and you get to do things physically with your hands that otherwise you may have lost the love of or uh trying inspired in kitties trying to get kitties off these things yeah yeah so yeah so that’s what it’s about and it’s uh it it was a joyous project for um myself and my colleagues to build because it felt like we were giving something very special back to the people of new zealand that love uh the creative process so uh um we’re very proud of it and very much enjoy uh running it here in new zealand that’s very cool richard so with that in mind let’s let’s back up a little bit and maybe kind of ask you about the richard taylor between the ages of let’s say 8 to 11 the young the young richard taylor who is clearly not anywhere near devices since they didn’t exist at that point but immersed in model making and creatures and all that kind of stuff what what were the things that inspired you to go on this path to now be at the forefront of all this currently uh well interestingly because i was growing up in rural new zealand in the 1970s which is how old i would have been back uh the the years it would have been at that age uh obviously there was no access to uh to the sort of media that we have access to today there were no magazines on what we do for a career that i was aware of we did go into town the first movie i ever saw was torah torah torah when i was six years old and then at eight years old i think i saw the aristocats which uh had a big impact on me and we were going into town once a year to go to the movies which was a decent drive away up into central auckland um but at that age i was into paper mache model making i was really passionate about um just doing model making in my bedroom my dad and i had built a h o gage railway so doing the landscaping on that it was tiny it was no bigger than the piece of table i’m sitting at but i got really into that and uh i discovered that there was a creek on the back of the farm this is a very well-worn story and i apologize to your listeners but i only have one life and this is it and i started digging clay out of the wall of the creek and that’s where i discover my love of sculpting i found some pictures a little while ago of me in the lounge of this sharemilkers cottage that we lived in where we were renting off a local farmer and the those sculptures are in the background in that photograph it’s quite bizarre and uh one of the first pieces of literature that uh sort of inspired my imagination was rupert the bear i don’t know if you guys are of an age that you would remember rupert if you remember rupert would go through portals into other worlds and uh characters would come through into his world and those stories were just so wonderfully inspiring to me i still have rupert memorabilia hanging on the wall of our house today but um it was actually my mum was training at a teacher’s training college and the library at the training college was having a closing down sale and i i bought two things at that uh at that closing down sale this was when i was about 12 years old for two dollars i bought a dog-eared copy of the triptych of the garden of earthly delights by hieronymus bosch and uh you you will undoubtedly know the painting if not by name if you were to see it it’s got it’s got heaven earth and hell and it’s got the descent of man into hell and uh or it’s it’s suggestive of what um if we were to sin what would become of us and there are iconic images today within it that you see on merchandising etc but for me i hung that above my bed and i would look at that painting every day and that painting this this was done hundreds of years ago but when you look at the ideas within the painting there’s some incredibly contemporary ideas as terrifying as almost any horror movie made today and that started the cogs of my brain working around the fantastical running in parallel to our ordinary lives and i started to realize that if i could imagine i could visualize a life in parallel that you could dip in and out of through your imagination and that very significantly catalyzed my brain starting to think about a future of doing this only a year later i met tanya when i was 13 and we even at that early age started to talk about um maybe doing a future making things we didn’t even know the film industry existed in new zealand i still thought that people were filming local tv shows in in people’s houses i never even comprehended sets but uh our our the the work that’s our vision could really only scale to theater tanya was in repertory theater i was doing um the theater design for our school plays at the school i was going to uh i was a i was actually acting the only female parts in the school plays because i had long legs and i was at a boys school so i used to sport a pair of fishnets and high heels yeah the school play oh yeah um so that that sort of and then of course in that very early age i discovered the hobbit i first read the hobbit and that that was my um lens into tolkien was through the hobbit i’m very glad it was because my reading age was very poor and at that young age i was reading judge dredd comics um abc warrior etc uh the strontium dogs those were the um foundation of my reading pleasure embarrassingly uh but um but i improved enough to read the hobbit and uh that was it of course and here we are talking to funnily enough yeah wonderful gentlemen was there something in those formative years richard that you actually made that you thought oh i i actually i’m quite good at this when when you got the finished article yeah no i no i never thought gi might be quite good at this but i did think gi i i really not only enjoy this if i don’t do this i am miserable and uh it dawned on me very early and i kept that to myself my mother was a science teacher my father was a ninja is an engineer and so they’re a very pragmatic pair we started building a house when i was i think about 11 years old my mum my dad and i almost entirely handmade together it took us five years and that was a very foundational training and what i did and and what i do today sorry but i realized while building that house and i did not always enjoy it of course because my friends are off um going into town and going to concerts and things like that and i was stuck in the weekends building this bloody house with my parents but um but i do i did identify back then that um i just really loved building things and making things and work more than that i had a almost unquenchable insatiable desire to do it and if i wasn’t doing it i felt wrong in myself so my parents wanted me to become an orthodontist because they could see that i had high a high level of skills to make tiny things i was making tiny toy soldiers and airbrushing things and so on and so they that that’s where they thought i could and it wasn’t that they were being negative towards me and my love of art they just couldn’t visualize any future in the arts at that point so they were trying to be highly supportive of something i could do yeah but i just knew in my heart that i had to do a career that that was making things and i the only person i would tell was tanya my my future wife yeah this is what i wanted to do and thankfully she was supportive and here we are today dom i have found a fantastic new clothing company tell me viori a new perspective on performance apparel perfect if you’re sick and tired of all that old workout 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everyone who shares your wi-fi can be protected secure your online activity today at expressvpn.com onion and get an extra three months free that’s e x p r e s s v p n dot com slash onion expressvpn dot com slash onion i think that’s uh i think that’s an a normal story here isn’t it from a lot of people who are involved in the arts is i think parents have a fear about their kids going into art because they feel like there’s always going to be disappoint and obviously you don’t want your your children to be disappointed so they try to support but steer you in a way that this will be a more secure way of making a living and living through your life so i think that’s a normal thing for parents to do so did you take that love of art into college is that where you went next after you removed the fishnets of course yeah yes i did that interestingly the school that i went to didn’t have an art class even though it’s the oldest school in new zealand so um to do art through secondary school uh thankfully a teacher arrived at the school mrs burrows who kindly embraced my love of art and uh almost in parallel with me we developed the art class and that took me right through to the end of the seventh form and then i applied to wellington polytechnic and i didn’t get in i was devastated because it meant italian and i had both agreed to move to wellington and tanya did get into victoria university to study and i didn’t get into wellington polytech i was i simply wasn’t good enough my portfolio i’d started the portfolio too late and and that’s a whole story in its own right but anyway i i didn’t get it but but three days before the course was supposed to start the head of school phoned me and he said someone’s dropped out you were the 37th person of 36 people do you want to move do you want to still take up the course and i said yes thank you and i moved to wellington uh to join tanya i thought i was going to spend another year on the farm doing hay making and trying to lift my skills and so on i was doing hay making in the summers i was working at the um at the auckland airport cleaning toilets on the international airplane flights as a as a job that my dad had got me and i was working at a local packing case factory operating a nail gun and uh that’s that was what i was visualizing i’d do for the next year but um thankfully i got in so i moved down to wellington three days before the two days before the course started and what was the course called what was it called the course i did visual communication and design at what was called wellington polytech which is now known as massey university yeah and probably the highest number of people that join us here at the workshop are from that course right that in the industrial design course i had intended to do industrial design and that’s what i applied for but i got into the end of the wrong queue and just never said anything so i ended up doing three years of graphic design and looking back i was very pleased that that mistake was made um i was a bit i was a bit um uh a little quieter than i might be today so it wasn’t one to speak up but um but anyway it was it was a great three years and i got to meet some lovely people and uh associate with some amazing inspiring individuals so uh yeah and i just discovered we discovered our love of wellington yeah that first year we thought we’d move straight back up north again but within a year wellington you know the bug of wellington bites you and you know that you’re addicted for the rest of your life we’ve never moved further than 15 minutes drive from where we did our studies wow yeah it’s an extremely compelling city excuse me and at what point at what point during that process did your paths cross with pete uh yeah that that’s obviously the most joyous moment my so tanya and i uh we left i finished my polytech course it was a course in uh visual communication and design but i realized very early on in that course that my illustration skills were poor comparatively to some of my colleagues so i started doing everything in 3d sculpting and model making playing to my strengths and very thankfully the tutors allowed me to do that so when i finished the course i actually got a job working in a design studio designing children’s games and it was a very well paid job but six weeks in i went to the owner of the company and politely asked if i could finish up because it just wasn’t fulfilling my love of making things as i had just as i managed to nurture through polytech and i moved to a significantly lower paid job working at a local television studio painting ultimate flats i don’t even think ultimate exists in the world today but but that job quickly allowed me to accelerate my career as i started doing low-cost tv commercials documentary low-cost documentary work until they finally decided that the company decided they wanted to do a new zealand version of spitting image that wonderful peter fluck and roger moore television series um and um and that that in its own i might mention a little story there but uh the um tanya and i i heard that they wanted to make this tv series so i actually went and borrowed a photograph of the boss and a guy called dave gibson one of new zealand’s great of television entrepreneurs and and you know instigated a lot of the tv industry here and i i manufactured a puppet uh in our flat uh from that photograph i sculpted it in margarine i was doing margarine buffet sculptures at night for the chef where my wife was now working in the evenings as a duty manager at a hotel and so i’d become very proficient in sculpting margarine and i’ve swapped the sculpture for a meal because we were a bit on the bones of our ass at that time um and uh and that tv show came out peter saw it on telly i think this was about four to five years into our working career and uh through a mutual friend cameron chitick he came and visited a studio where we were making a tv commercial for the vulgars coffee bean commercial and it was a sort of an indiana jones had just come out and it was an indiana jones type ripoff tv commercial and we were doing this massive this massive jungle with cameron tanya and i and this young chap 27 years old i think pete was at the time walked in through the door and i glanced sideways and i saw him come in and i we we were organized to meet so i climbed off the set uh went and said hello and that was it we became the three of us became firm friends and for the next many years would hang out um talking of things we aspired to do in the future movies that we wanted to make he obviously very kindly introduced us to the world of of effects and filmmaking at a level that we didn’t even begin to understand i i came to a love of film effects late late in my life comparatively to say my american colleagues who who grew up on it almost from birth so that that was great we used to go and sit in the front room of peter’s tiny little cottage probably the smallest house in wellington when he first moved him to town from his mum and dad’s house having finished bad taste and we would watch this giant television screen it’s probably a postage stamp compared to screens today but um him peter tanya and i would sit on this couch and if he left the curtains open you’d do this and you’d look back behind where peter was sitting and and people walking their dogs would have gathered on the pavement watching the movie through the window so peculiar and strange with the things that we used to watch that’s great is would you say that based on your upbringing pete stop bringing tania’s upbringing was would it be fair to say that you guys all kind of found kindred spirits in each other is that what was going on there yeah yeah exactly i think he was surprised i don’t want to put words in pete’s mouth but if i recall i think he was probably surprised to discover that there were other people in the country doing exactly what he did remember at that time he was making everything himself uh he had made most of bad taste himself and you could argue that if peter had a thousand years he could make lord of the rings himself such as his skills across such a broad spectrum of capabilities and so we would read his um fangoria magazines we’d read as cine fantastique magazines would sit on his couch watching strange and peculiar movies uh we would talk about ray harryhausen we’ll talk about rick baker dick smith uh some of the greats of the industry that we uh that we uh loved uh together and uh and we talked about things we wanted to make and we used to do model making sessions together uh etc and tanya being a fabulous cook would cook for pete pete cook for us he come to our place for for um barbecues it was just a really nice way to uh to find communal interest uh in what we all loved to do and then of course he got brain dead off the ground and that gave us something to focus on sadly for us brain dead fell over uh six or eight weeks after we joined the production but very thankfully for us very and very quickly him and jim booth the producer that we were all working with and a very dear and close friend to peter managed to get meet the feebles up and running and and that certainly gave us something to rally around and uh follow peter’s vision and extraordinary talents uh as we as we begun on that film and that is a fantastic film and i suppose the the perfect one for you guys to work on together at that time because it used both your skills so well yeah it really was um the the puppet production was run by cameron chidick and cameron had been a great friend of penis and helped peter at the end of bad taste and cameron’s the same age of me but was uh an enthusiastic model maker from auckland uh who had moved to wellington to work with pete and he led us into this world of foam rubber puppets and peter would come in and um and make puppets himself he made abi bhagwad who was the uh indian contortionist who falls yeah falls and pops his head up his own bottom um but and peter peter aspired to make many more of the puppets but he was just so busy trying to get the film made and writing the script and so on i just make one comment on uh on peter with respect to that movie it was at that time that it dawned on me um i think it’s i think it’s an appropriate word to use the genius of the filmmaker that we were interacting with because on a particular evening we turned up at his house for dinner or something or to talk about the movie and he was lying on the couch with his eyes closed and he was talking through the film in his mind now if you think about how you make a puppet movie you have to pre-record all of the dialogue and all of the beats of the movie before you film the movie because you’ve got to play the playback so that the puppeteers can work their hands to the sound of the voices so unlike a traditional movie where you where you pre-write the script but then you go in each day and you can play with the pacing relative to how you direct the actors voices you have had to have pre-directed it entirely in your head and it dawned on me that he was able to scope the complete film in his mind right down to the accents of how the characters would talk yeah and how they would interact and the time that they would need to walk from here to here before they delivered the next line right yeah if you if you start to think about it it is mind-bending yeah when you actually start to think about that and a lot of people would watch meet the feebles and they ah it’s just a silly you know piss take off the hensons and it’s just a a gross funny puppet movie but you actually watch it and and realize how clever it is for a young filmmaker to have made it the techniques that he used the invention that is within it uh the the clever he sent it to new line at the time and i remember him telling us that one of the new line people that got back to him said oh god you know richard we love the movie aside peter we love the movie it was amazing uh specifically the technique that you used to shoot the flying fly how on earth you pulled such a good mat off the blue screen on the wings of the fly it was perfect you guys are doing great optical work down there it was a fishing rod with a fishing line dangling to the middle of this fly with a 10 remote control car mechanism flapping its wings as someone guided it through the scene and it was glorious so but but um the last couple of days ended up just with peter with his bowlex on his shoulder with one mongoose on his hand here with tanya and i with that with four mongooses on our hands running through the arrow street bush and uh we’re like it doesn’t get better than this and i think pete saw our sort of unabashed enthusiasm and just desire to make cool things and uh yeah and and be along for the ride so thankfully brain dead came around the corner straight after that amazing stuff from richard absolutely incredible great chat we were so excited that we just kept talking and talking so i think we’re gonna split it into two weeks right yep and we’ll get some more of richard next week so please tune in to the friendship onion next week don’t forget to send your uh questions and comments and everything to the friendship onion at castmedia.com and subscribe yes rate review and subscribers if you subscribe to the friendship on you don’t need to go look for it it just shows up in your phone and also if you review us billy and i scroll through all these reviews and the ones that we love we tend to take a screen grab of and put up on our social media and maybe we’ll even mention them on the podcast so rate review subscribers and we’ll see you next week see you next week on the friendship onion toodles bye-bye


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