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The Breakdown: 19 July, 2021

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[Music] tonight on the breakdown goldie heads to fozzie’s hood for a sit down one-on-one with your black coach as he names his side for the blitz lows we’re live to tokyo to hear from our troops on the ground about just how the games are tracking and it was like a game of poker at the weekend cards cards cards after great debate we red card the red [Music] card hello and welcome to the breakdown the all blacks july international window has come to a close and the all blacks delivered again in hamilton against fiji manusama are confirmed they are heading to the 2023 rugby world cup and there was plenty of drama across the tasman just the three of us tonight up here we’ll get to bernie very very soon sir john kerr and mills maliana we’re all in hamilton sold out crowd jk i think it was actually a nice way to finish three weekends of pretty good action the all black’s obviously dominant week one but two good tests against fiji yeah fiji are great i mean it’s just fantastic the whole sort of atmosphere as well but for me i think it’s really really hard to to play two weeks in a row against the all blacks meals get up i think they got up mentally the first week second week not quite as good as the first week yeah just sustain that really wasn’t it i mean they came out it came out of blocks pretty well they applied pressure it was just that moment just before half time really and then um you know the all black sort of is in foster mention they stepped it up a couple of notches whereas fiji probably only won oh let’s talk about that the all blacks were better and they’ve been better through the three weeks jk for you yeah it kept improving i think the intriguing thing for me um once i saw that they were improving i was looking at you know the the individuals who are now playing for the for the 15 test spots so that’s what i’m really interested in what’s the mix going to be who played themselves in who played themselves out how does that look and that was announced this morning at 11 a.m the new all black squad let’s get to bernadine and the all blacks have announced their rugby championship squad and they welcome back burn some major artillery do they what i tell you i’d be happy with the squad 36 that’s the number that ian foster has stuck with for his squad but there are a couple of extras too i will explain to the engine room first four hookers and six props but after a barnstorming debut including two tries hoka samaswani tokiahu isn’t named but will remain in camp as will george barr the experienced joe moody and offer tuangafasi returning to the propping department no room for southland’s ethan de groot 125 test veteran sam whitelock will captain the side in sam kane’s absence as he continues to recover from chess surgery seven lucy’s named crusader ethan blackhead are retained to the backs and creating most of the chat tj piranha he returns to the squad after a stint in japan and a public dalliance with league one we now know that fozzie wasn’t that happy with he’s joined by smith and webber no room for finlay christie a testament to the depth we have at half act but the blues number nine will also stay on in camp as temporary cover no surprises at first five it’s hard to mai to brighton en or who’s back in the midfield after recovering from surgery for appendicitis quintupair also staying put how good are the outside backs looking half of them crusaders expect to see a few of these names playing locally the all black management wanting inor moody and tungafasi to play npc footy and piranhana gotta get match fit but tj reckons he’s ready to go now i feel like i’m in a really good condition i’m looking forward to playing some big minutes and to experiencing that level of footy again i know i’m not naive to the fact that it is different though that i have been playing some awesome club footy um lately coming from japan playing in a league that’s still really really tough but a different sort of tough uh certainly the biggest talking point out of this squad selection i don’t think there are too many surprises the fact it was always going to be difficult for some of those players to hold out the likes of a returning joe moody offered to farsi but jk look this opportunity that tj pirinaro has been given look he wasn’t contracted he got contracted after his it finished with japan he’s come back to new zealand four club games he’s now back in the all blacks is that contentious for you yeah and it’s got nothing to do with tj perenna i think he’s an outstanding player um but we’re picking him on now last year’s form and he’s coming back from japan he looked really light in the in the photos i’ve just seen and so why have we retained christie well it’s probably injured well at this stage it looks as though he needs more game time to get himself match fit they want to maybe get him back into squad mills i mean the fact of the matter is he’ll probably still have to prove some things at mpc level and inside the squad maybe before he gets a run i absolutely will have to and i suppose the biggest thing would be the intensity it looks like he’s lost a lot of weight so in terms of that you know how is that going to fear when you go to sort of the mp civil sea level because there’s a couple of jumps up before you get into test match so he will have to prove himself but the coaches have obviously found you know um you know their assessment of them that he warrants us and when i look at someone like that but mills why don’t you just name it the other way around well that’s what i was saying keep christie in and say we’re going to see tj play at the npc level i mean he’s played club footy or well i mean i may be a dinosaur but just bring him back in give him a dumb club game to keep world rugby you know and then bring him in for this tournament or to get him to play against the maori i don’t understand now because what happens he’s been named and um someone pulls his calf like dane coles did last week and he’s starting against australia is he ready well that’s going to be the challenge for tj pedernaro is he’s going to have to prove himself right i mean that’s the reality well no he’s picked in the all blacks that’s you prove yourself to get in the all black but i think also he’s going to have to leap frog you know someone like a weber you know so you know in terms of that he’s he’s obviously the third if he has to go back and prove himself and so why are we keeping christy well well i think you know christie’s there just in case right you know you obviously have to name something in terms of the whole championship you have to name it a squad they feel it’s there if you break it down right we’re going to break it down okay i think christie’s had a fantastic you know what i think he and when you look at stuff like that ian foster’s talking about the speed and things he’s done everything right he brings something different different to the game you know this is a conversation that ian foster and the coaches have to have with this young man you know he’s done everything right okay he hasn’t been selected but they’re obviously bringing someone else back in okay so what does that in terms of the game analysis okay well perhaps they’re the same similar sort of um similar away but what does tj bring that’s going to be different that’s going to be beneficial to the all blacks leading into the breeders though and the championship it’s probably delicious he brings a vast amount of experience he brings a vast amount of experience into the group look this has got nothing to do with tj pirinara and your argument is completely on point but what happened to the values of earning the jersey full stop for me nothing against nothing against tj your argument’s correct he’s got all the experience and everything but just keep christie in there say tj is our fourth right and he’s going to play npc so they’re all going to leave and play npc is this for some rule that i don’t know is it how do you mean well are we naming all these players well essentially there’s a lot of guys who are coming back from injury we’ve seen already guys who have come into the industry i guess they’ve been playing here right what’s that they’ve been playing here yes they have been playing yep they have been part of it and they’ll be nice and and and uh retalic and barrett did the same yeah and they were probably a little bit short of a gallop right but that was fiji okay taking a risk against tonga and fiji now we’ve got the championship that’s what i’m saying i’ll repeat tj paranara is good enough at this level but we haven’t seen him for a year if you look at it like this okay christy’s still in there and that’s perhaps what the coaches might be thinking tj piranha comes back okay he’s the third okay tj’s the third christie’s the fourth well realistically they’re both not going to play so aren’t you better having someone in there with his experience while he’s getting himself up to speed and having christie also challenge the fact that he might overtake you know tj perenna she probably certainly hasn’t earned his spot he might not play during the championship or the blitz though but i’d much rather prefer to have him as that leadership to grow the leadership group because i think that’s probably an area that they’re all blacks are possibly you know lacking a bit you know it’s that emphasis of of more guys in there don’t you might not necessarily play but the value of the leadership within the environment i think that holds you know great strength for me for me i don’t disagree meals for me it’s just mixed messaging that’s all i just don’t get it and like i said i could be a dinosaur my kids tell me i’ll have no comment on that jk look i spoke with ian foster today in hamilton i asked with all the challenges of the last 18 months as it started to feel this season is more like a typical all black campaign yes it does you know like it’s because the things that we’ve planned uh february march april may are actually starting to happen so so that’s nice um we don’t get too confident about that they do you know like at the end of the day it’s you know we’re just enjoying the moment and enjoying the tests are in front of us but it is nice to actually have a plan and a program and and and roll through it so with three test matches in does it seem to you that this seems to be i suppose a real synergy with this group has it come together quite quickly you’re really delighted with the synergy i mean they’re they’re a tight group they’ve worked hard on that and um and and they’re playing for each other and and there’s a great sort of vibe amongst the squad you know i made a comment with some of the skilled work on stuff that we’re doing is probably the best i’ve seen in terms of their own ownership and their desire to get better in the spaces so delighted with the way they’ve been led you know by our leaders at the moment um there’s a great feeling great camaraderie and that’s kind of been one of our key focuses for for the steinlager series but the same side is that it’s it is coming together i think we’ve seen some nice steps in progress through the steinlager series but but again that’s just the starting point for what’s what’s to come so you name a big squad how do you balance that development of players against getting significant game time on transitional stage you know it’s not easy and it’s reasonably complex to get it right and so again we just got to trust our instincts on that but we’ve also got to bear in mind that we still live in a covered world where there’s a chance of people getting getting a cold or a bug later in the week and and if that happens then they get basically isolated and they can’t play a game so they’ve got those variables to deal with are you determined maybe this season to get your best combination a bit more time together in the test arena oh i think the bread is those vital for us you know the breeders though cup is not a there’s not a series that we go in with a rotation mindset if you look at last year we basically it’s it’s our key it’s our key pinnacle event for the year really and so we went into last year and became a massive focus we after three games we locked the cup away and was only after that that we started to say okay well now we need to reuse the next few games to rotate and build a bit of a depth this year we’re a little bit further along this last series we’ve learned a lot about a wider group but now we want to get our performance right and so you know i’d expect a lot more continuity and selection through the british cup series and but then of course my job is to look a little bit further ahead and then we’ve got four in a row so four weekends in a row will undoubtedly mean that we’re going to have to change some combinations around so it’s a it’s an eye for that part as well so obviously tj perrinata comes back into the environment i mean what gives you the confidence that he’s going to be able to contribute sooner rather than later well he’s done it before you know he’s been a key a key leader for us um you know he’s played a lot of test matches he he went to japan and and we gave him a clear focus on on focusing on the speed part of his game we’ve got a lot of faith in tj defensively and how he plays and if he can just keep that that speed of service up then then there’s no reason why he can’t um carry on playing at a top level for us so and as an athlete he’s competitive we know he’s fit and so for him it was a break that we kind of sensed that he probably needed um talking to him he’s come back massively refreshed and the other side of the corners we’ve got to finally christy has taken his opportunity too so again we’re building good options in that space so you think about the nature of the professional game now and we’ve got a number of players who are taking their financial sabbatical is that just something that’s going to be a part of the future now the fact you’ll get to july and there will be players come back under your radar oh it seems to be done that you know it seems to be like on one side of the coin you’ve got um france and england and and goodbye forever versus an option of having a six-month stitch in japan and then coming back i guess when you look at the theory of that the japan one looks really good for our top players um the the niggly parts are reintroduction like how do you get them back in and so you know and contractually new zealand rugby’s got got a got a policy around that they have to play some domestic rugby before they come back in and and i agree with that so is it is it perfect for us no i’d love players to play here all the time and but you know in some ways it’s we’ve been able to use a necessary evil in some ways to get a long-term benefit which is we are seeing guys um use that we’ve seen experienced players use that as a chance to to freshen up and i guess it’s something to do with a bank account but it’s also we are seeing some long-term commitments to new zealand after that which has proven pretty beneficial well as we’re seeing it more and more now players taking that opportunity looks as though patrick tupalotu is going to do that as well he’s going to spend next uh super rugby season that’s going to be played in japan is this just the nature of what we’re dealing with right now is that why maybe our relationship with japan needs to be really really strong because these are some of our very best players our high level players going into their environment and this needs to be managed really well yeah it certainly does and you heard fozzie talk about the financial sort of gains that they get out of that and then obviously you know a lot less sort of physical physicality but i think that’s probably the main bit the guys can go away you know earn a bit more without needing to go away to somewhere like it’s not it’s not just a bit more though right it’s significant a lot of cases yeah they’re not going to be able to they we just can’t make that amount of money here it’s three to four times more than that even make in six months i mean why wouldn’t you i mean we’re talking about our guys that we want to our leaders that we want to keep on for a wee while now it’d be a bit concerning if they were giving it to the finley christie’s of the world and say hey you go out on a sabbatical they wouldn’t i mean they wouldn’t want to go but that’s the cream that we don’t want leaving we don’t want those so they’ve got to manage both sides and this is where money sort of comes into it but in terms of where our leaders are you have to give them that opportunity otherwise they’re never going to stick around i think the important thing for me jk is that we see a commitment to our game long term that a lot of these guys the ones that are taking it are signing on for new zealand rugby for two to three years that gives us some security right the fact that they are going to come back and contribute it’s when you get situations when they are off contract completely and there may be other players who take this opportunity so i think like i say we need to be very careful about where we go with this right oh well for me i think always we’re forgetting the fan right we’re not fan centric in our game anymore and i think that’s a big concern i’d be if i was the player i’d be doing exactly the same so don’t get me wrong i’d be taking a sabbatical but we need some really clear rules right so the tj thing i thought he was gone and then he’s back you know i knew that that retalic and barrett were going because we need to retain them because they’re going to get three times as much in france i get that it’s a financial sabbatical but at some stage when is the fan just gonna get disinterested i mean patrick for a blues fan is our man right and he’s i’m sure he’s not going to miss the all black season he’s going to miss the blue season so we just got to be a little bit careful that we’re we’re not making the fan disinterested because you know i spoke to a couple of kids on the plane the other day and you know who’s your favorite player or bowdoin barrett you know um and if these guys leave then we just need to set some rules around it so okay you’re leaving on these terms good we get it okay you’re coming back but you’re signing along your deal don’t don’t come to me in in two years time so i know i’m off again because at some stage we’ve got to go you guys need to make as much money as you can and i’m all for that i would have done exactly the same but also where does the fan sit how do we organize our seasons so that you know super rugby is going to be irrelevant if we’re not careful like npc is starting to become irrelevant and we need to be really careful that we we we start thinking about does the silver lake deal oh should i i said it we’ve been keeping you you said you were going to is that going to change things do we need different ways to keep our players should there be i don’t know a property pool that you go into as all blacks that keep you here so you earn extra money because they are trying to earn as much money as they can in 10 or 12 years to look after the whole of their life so i get that but can we change tech a little bit then let’s talk about the skulls squad as a whole and you talk about the guys who have maybe missed out on the fact their performances ethan degroot i think’s done a really nice job only one missed out mate yeah everyone else is in there yeah i get that but i think all of them are impressed in some way but also i think some players mills will maybe you’ll notice the fact where they sit right now and with these bigger test matches coming up the rugby championship guys that maybe didn’t hit the mark and they’re one or two chances in these three tests all of a sudden they’ll know exactly where they sit i think it’s an exciting group the potential is there this is a group that we see doing very well in the rugby championship right absolutely and when i think in foster and co would have a big smile on their faces in terms of the new guys they’ve introduced you know the deputies because i think they had they plan out had an outstanding sort of the last three weeks when you look at the guys now you know buying for like these those one to 23 positions some of them probably have missed a boat and they’re probably a little bit disappointed because you heard him you said you know the beta’s load is the big cup that’s what we want to retain so he’s going to take his best team out there you know the best 23 to make sure that we retain that and then start rotating so perhaps or some guys are thinking well am i going to get a chance in the championship to be able to get another opportunity and what does that look like so for for some of those three weeks um you know there’s some some hotly contested positions you know you’re talking about the back three you know even the midfields you know and also you know the the back three in the scrum so some guys will be disappointed but i was really impressed with the deputy so i think um in terms of the way they’ve come on outstanding yeah really good squad i think it’s an outstanding squad to agree i thought was outstanding he’s got a bit of a mongrel on him you know he’s like yeah into it um but the it’s over this is bledisloe cup the hardest thing for for fozzie is that um all all black coaches have to win on the way to getting to the world cup so you know we need to win the championship when then to when the the the letters like up because that’s exactly what we expect so that that’s tough but i like the mix i think there’s a good mix of young and old good good bit of enthusiasm coming through and you know we’ve all been older all blacks and that’s what you want you want the young guys nipping at your heels and i like the fact we saw a response from week two week three the fact they got challenged down in danita and they went to hamilton fiji showed up once again and we’re very physical but we lifted our game as ian foster has talked about well it’s bern’s favorite part of the show and jk’s on a roll he is on a trivia role exactly all of a sudden i’m wondering whether the questions are starting to get angled towards really a little bit of favoritism i think mills went back to the 80s you’ve got jim case in his pocket right jim’s doing the research you got a text just before and i reckon it’s the answer yeah i’m paying for it though [Laughter] professional and we’re not talking professionals professional trivia you’re going for the three-peat the hat trick this week here you’ve got two and look speaking of young and old um the young has arrived to address the old um this is trivia with an age kind of bracket on it so you may be in the money again jk don’t like to say that who who who is come on you run at home help us out who’s the oldest all black in the modern era okay we already have a protest so um ponder that profession yeah so professionalism all right so i have a little think my our producer said oh i think this is getting too easy but it’s easy when you have the answer which you do not have because i know you haven’t checked your text message recently all right so who’s the oldest all black answer now hold that thought get thinking and while you do soak up the very best of the best of the fpc action from the weekend [Music] love the girls just excited for a good season i’m looking for change no i’m not going to fade [Music] trying to find someone yeah make something out of nothing that’s a wonderful decent play at the beginning of the match wouldn’t you okay welcome back to breakdown and you’re not going to believe what jeff wilson just said to me i haven’t had a time to think about the question well i just assume jake what do you mean i assume jk well you run the question again what is that who who’s the oldest all black in the modern era so you know it’s not all together and possible we have a little stab in the dark well kevin who played like forever okay so that’s your guess oh of jk taking three in a row so kevin milamou mill’s ready oh no it’s brad thorns who frank bunce i like that yes jk thought that was my answer i have no idea he was really old i have no idea take that one bread thought yes you all heard me say they hit me in the back say it louder oh what are you talking about that’s outstanding i’m going to rewind it back though everyone heard me say it i’m sure they heard me say look i was and burn you’ll be happy about this i was enjoying my time so much in hamilton i kept ian foster chatting and asked if we’ve ever had so much internal competition for places and how much pressure does that put on his selection team yep oh it has you know and kind of got to remind people a little bit that we’ve got a lot of players that like haven’t played over 10 tests at the moment and we’ve got a lot of guys that have between last year and this year that we’ve introduced that are still learning a little bit about the demands of test rugby but the good thing about like the last series is that we’ve seen guys actually take their opportunity and they look quite good and comfortable in that space so admittedly there’s some big tests to come and you know it’s a it’s a bit different plan here in a steinlager series versus ellis park or twickenham or for france and so we’ve still got a lot of learning to go with some of our players specialists versus versatility it’s definitely specialist 2021 we’re trying to build the best depth in each position you want someone to to be at a test level battle hardened in one position and the fact that they can cover another one is actually just an advantage particularly when you get closer to a world cup tournament where your squad size is extremely limited so you talk about ricoh for example is you know he wants to be a specialist at 13 and so that’s that’s his challenge we’ve gone with him we i’ve certainly seen some really good growth for him at 13 of the last campaign um and then he goes and plays 40 minutes like he did on the wing so you know he’s he’s probably still an international winger and he’s but he’s making big strides as an international center so you call him whatever you like but he’s pretty good at both the search for the game plan is it plan a plan b how much time do you spend on that adaptability of your game we left the world cup that we felt that um that if teams attacked us physically particularly through our set piece that um that it disrupted our game and that seemed to be the formula the last couple of years before that so last year there’s a real focus on on on improving our set piece and improving the consistency of it and and not only on our ball but actually using it a bit more as a weapon and we’re still not a um a natural kicking team and yet we kick well the other main components that you’re playing around with and the rest of the stuff is variation on on game plans and strategy which i guess is pretty specific to who you’re playing the next week what’s the pressure for you that you feel as an all black company the biggest pressures from with inside you can because we demand from our players um that they operate at the highest level we demand a massive commitment to their skill level to how they go about things their rehab their preparation and quite frankly when they go out in the park now it’s it’s a it’s a tough old game so we need people 100 in and and the flip side is they demand the same amount of us as coaches and management and so um every day you’re getting up and making sure we’re doing a great job for this particular group of people and and i love that you know it’s a it’s there’s a lot of external noise in this in this job there always is and part of me likes that too because you know we’ve got a lot of passion and and if someone didn’t like you five years ago then they can’t say they’re wrong and suddenly start liking your five years later so you’re going to get the constant noise around you and everything you do the key is is to is not to get distracted from it or to start sulking about it’s just to enjoy the the job that you’re doing and um and right now the the job itself that the people that i work with generates enough pressure to keep me busy you are at the moment you are you are dare i say it coaching for your future i mean does that make things challenging as well well it’s it’s it wouldn’t be my desired situation and you have to ask new zealand rugby about that but it’s um but the fact is is that as an all black head coach your job is to look at the here and now and also to look at the future this is some sort of next couple of months you’ve got in front of you is this where you’re going to really find out where all black rugby and this team sits going forward it’s hard to explain but um you know look at and i’ve talked to the players about is that you can go through super rugby you can lose a couple of games win a trophy and everyone thinks you’re outstanding in the all blacks you can go through a championship win a trophy lose a couple of games and no one remembers the trophies so what we’ve got ahead of us is a whole lot of individual test matches and every test match we’ve got to be at our best and that’s our focus and and the consequence of that is um you know when you look through three against aussie two against argentina two in south africa um you couldn’t want anything more could you three weeks between test matches that’s what you’re talking about jk these are important three weeks in terms of preparation break because then they’ve got a really intense period listen to fozzy talking there it seems as though he’s got a difficult job on his hands he has to focus on the here and now but it’s great to see he’s got an eye on what he needs to try and prepare for in 2023 if he’s the man in charge what on mate great interview it’s really good that’s on him though he was awesome to deal with really open and honest yeah he was fantastic but he asked the right questions and i think a couple of those things i’ve been thinking about and i actually don’t mind if they lose some test matches i don’t think it’s healthy to get to the world cup without really being tested and learning um our goal is now what yeah we want to win so that was interesting what fozzie said a milsi about you know last year he was they were really criticized but they brought home the cups that they wanted to and i actually don’t mind that we want competition and if we can get to the next world cup and win it because we’ve been through adversity richie moana needs to go through adversity at this level you know he’s been through it the last time didn’t they go through that in 2019 no they’ve sort of been through that mills i mean what i was interested in i don’t know if you read it but john hart came out and talking about the fact that we need to let ian foster go about his job yeah get get the ability to just focus on what he’s doing it sounds like he’s doing that but obviously the next two the british low cup and the rugby championships are going to be key for where he’s going going forward he’s been a very long time so you know he’s got that experience in terms of the group but from a you know a co-coach point of view you know he had that adversity last year uh in terms of you know they won the trophies but it’s always been like that and perhaps you know himself as a coach and that didn’t realize it until you’re in the hot seat and that you know you might lose a couple but you know no one remembers the trophies and i think he’s learned from that i think now he’s got to understand he’s got to go out there and go well what what’s my style what do i need to what i need to get the best out of these players in terms of the style that i want to play and he’s got a he’s got a good group but it’s about bringing them together and so when he says things like that he’s talking about the you know making sure the set piece i’ve always thought that was for us really that was it was always the sort of hallmark of our game making sure we got that right so perhaps they went a little bit different in terms of making sure they’re more mobile but on the back end of that you know the rugby world cup when we um in 2019. so i think he’s found he’s probably possibly found his feet now he’s looking into the future but it’s about implementing it now and keeping guys happy yeah i think the the whole noise stuff is just i mean it’s the second most important job in the country right um and there’s always going to be noise if it’s not razor breathing down your neck you win by 15 points and it’s not a good performance i mean it’s just the way it goes in this country like i say all of us know the game well enough to have an opinion on it we don’t have to select the thing we don’t have to coach it um and he does there’s always going to be that noise but i actually like the way he’s going about it this time did we get out muscled in the in the world cup and are we going to go out and try and help muscle or we’re just going to run them around and just react better to the pressure like it was a bit like that first fijian test when you looked at that final we got a little bit surprised with the intensity and the well i mean i remember mccor saying you know you’ve got to go to or even foxy or someone said you’ve got to go to everest three times so are we going to practice this year actually playing the same team for three weeks in a row and getting in you know so you can’t it seems that the world cup you can’t get up for a big semi-final quarter phone like we didn’t you know so do we practice that this year there’s a lot to talk about but it seems that he’s you know he’s pretty comfortable with where he’s at winning rugby world cups is about winning three big test matches in a row that’s what you get quarters semis and finals what is it for the all blacks coming up let’s have a look at the schedule now normally we play three breeders low cups in a season and the third one is played in october we’re starting with it this year okay so it’s going to be the first test match at eden park that’s test number one the next two are part of the rugby championship that is followed over in perth and then it’s in wellington then the rugby championship it continues yes the first is actually the third jk that’s not so it’s a decider it could be exactly the decider but then argentina uh argentina south africa south africa so there’s so much to look forward to you think at eden park that game at eden park in den sorry at the game of four side bar and danita will be the 100th test match between the all blacks and south africa that’ll be massive and then it’ll be a south african home game in eden park i’m looking forward to seeing that and of course that’s on the back of a lions series hang on hang on a second if it’s their home game do they get our change room how would i know that no that’s all i know is that the the north shore is going to flood across that bridge but you do not want to be playing we have never been beaten at eating parfaits don’t get the hunger they’ll get the they won’t get your fancy baths and all those sort of things the home team has the best home game they get our number one change room well it might know how bad they think they will yes they will no that’s bad welcome in welcome and i want to meet come on burn come on burn he’s gonna be complaining about the price of chips again isn’t he they are expensive good ships like when you need them it’s always those who can afford and always complain about the little things all right so let’s have a quick burn around the world he had every reason to smile after making a return from injury scoring tries and setting them up but adi saves chompers were without a mouth guard in the aby’s victory against fiji on saturday again the uncompromising number seven was in the spotlight last year for exactly this demeanor it was used to ian foster when he was asked about it and while it’s not a world rugby rule to wear a mouth guard it is part of the new zealand rugby class agreement hope he’s got a good dentist another high-profile player is japan bound it seems no not dmacc but standby for that one but blue’s captain patrick toypolartu he’s believed to be heading to japan to play for toyota for blitz it’s not long term paddy’s signed up to remain in new zealand until 2023 the world cup then um and he’s got a long-term contract with the blues franchise [Applause] solid win for the british and irish lions beating the storm is 49 points to three now this is the last warm-up game before the business end the first test against the spring box this weekend welcome to paul d manusa mo they’ve cemented their spot in the 2023 rugby world cup after holding off a rugged tong inside 37 points to 15 in the second and final leg of their qualifier in hamilton at the weekend they’ll continue to grow and build they’ll have to they’re in slick company in pool d with england argentina and japan but not all is lost for tonga they have two more shots at qualifying if they beat the cook islands this weekend or the winners of the asia rugby championship tonga’s match this weekend live on sky now who needs 15 men the aussies held off a focused and fiery french side only just though with 14 men for 75 minutes on saturday to claim their second win in the three test series it was an absolute thriller the aussies off the hook by three points but it was made and hard with controversy marika korembetti with a red card for this just five minutes into the game on the french skip and caused a bit of reaction listen to mertz go tim go further and from an objective viewpoint even though i’m living in australia that’s an absolute travesty and we need to hear more about this they painted themselves into a corner by saying it was foul play and by saying there was no mitigation and i think they’re wrong on both counts yep he has said this is wrong he said we need to talk about it and dave rennie he did you know we’re disappointed um that the french lay down on a couple of those situations to try and bring the rest of the game and there were certainly two clear times where um julia when he scored his try you know forearm straight to the throat of tate mcdermott and tate doesn’t lie down and bring the ref’s attention to it and because we don’t want to do that sort of thing it’s not the spirit of the game and uh and likewise um you know hunter paisami got caught one in a jaw so you know i i guess um frustrating that we end up having to play with 14 but really proud of the character very proud of his team dave rennie so the aussies claiming the series the french winning the academy award so is is dave really right i think a number of people on right on a number of fronts here jk it’s a matter of where do you start and he’s he’s been drawing jk uh this is perfect this is not a package this is not a pack and save ad this is not a pack and say that can you see that so take the decision out of the referee’s hands if you look at i’ve looked at all those footage this was damian mckenzie right he was upright and made a mistake this was caught and betty on the weekend where he’s coming upwards right so watch daniel mckenzie here he’s upright that’s just bad technique okay so he’s upright i don’t think it was and you can’t do that right so the second one is kodambetti who’s actually um can you come a bit closer i can’t see that can you sit down there so if you look at this from behind he is actually on a 45 angle going up right so that’s a no but it’s a yellow card not a red card now the bottom one is actually where the players need to get back so here’s an example right he starts slipping boom look go back see perfect technique yeah it doesn’t look fantastic and that’s a yes right so if we actually take the decision away from europe if we look at all those things we can actually work it out on a honor on an angle point of view and the last bit i wrote down the bottom was no muppet diving from that french one of the great football fans is what you are i mean that’s what that but that’s what we’re grumpy about you see that in the fact we just don’t want that in our game no he’s got to get banned i mean and dave rennie talked about the fact that guys being you know like they were hit by a sniper right there’s all of a sudden they’re going down and grip i mean that’s just it’s unacceptable and and all of a sudden we’re confusing things i come back to this though will rugby back themselves into a corner mills by removing the 20-minute red card so you don’t even give your referees an opportunity to slightly get it wrong and then protect themselves they remove that and then all of a sudden the team gets punished but listen my point though guys is we have the technology you can’t tell me that we can go to the video footage now and actually work it out from a technical point of view if you’re on that angle you’re okay if you’re not you’re not and it makes it easier i believe and we’ve got the technology to do it why don’t we use it because we’re leaving it over to the referees and look the poor referees he’s in a heated moment he’s got you know he’s got the muppet rolling around on the ground like he’s dead and then he’s got the captain’s coming and that’s red and the other guy’s going oh it’s yellow so the poor guy is under pressure should just go up to tmo and they should look at the angles but they need a conversation around it don’t they it seems like they’ve just gone in there and said anything that’s hit at the head you’re gone red card red card they need sort of stick figures like jks once they actually go through them and say well here are the mitigating factors if has he got is is he on the 45 is he low enough okay well perhaps it’s you know even the red card thing you know take them off and then replace them later 20 minutes is still a long time but when you when you’ve made a decision based on that what you’re talking about jk in terms of the heat at the moment they have enough on their their minds i just think they’re throwing the referees under the bus and sort of said to them perhaps on the day anything on the head you’re gone and that’s what’s happened so i i kind of feel for them that way well this is the first time on the breakdown we’re gonna go to the tmo we’re going to go to the tmo but i see emma let’s have a look at this and what happened just after the break let’s just have a wee listen well kevin who played like forever okay so that’s your guess i’m going to go this way i’m going to go left to right of jk taking three in a row so kevin miyalamu mills oh no it’s brad thorns who frank bunce i like hold on you heard me say it yeah you said you didn’t have a second answer nice i actually then and then i have a band you’re off you’re out but then i gave him i actually gave you the answer and then you got it wrong broke the rules pick up your bottom left plus frank slide well you come back in and do the club news please bernie sanders i said brad thorne everyone heard me say it doesn’t matter i actually got the top two it’s so i think it’s double points i’ve got double points we don’t win anything goldie oh the bottom lip that’s wiping the floor at the moment right we’re going to be out of time wonder how many cars were handed out at club rugby over the weekend perhaps a few of the spectators or those who didn’t do too well at quiz night let’s do a rip around the country now with some of the best action south canterbury final firstly and tamuka smashed harlequins 33-3 sioni osamu one of the tri-scorers for tamuka oh nice little chip and he takes it and he’s away beautiful and he’s happy about exactly my part of the country and the mighty waikato final saw ho tapu play fraser tech winger tom malva getting in on the action but it wasn’t enough to stave off razor tech who won the match by 3 13 points to 10 the final score and in the county’s monaco final karaka relied on their wingers against admiral marist they rocked up 33 points to marist’s 19 and thanks to our friends grassroots rugby for the very cool perks oh that’s some style in the air got it always love the late dive the guy comes diving in like afterwards thinking he’s made a difference now this is cool if you like celebrations uh this is a lesson on celebrating mercury bay on the coromandel showing how to really utilize a whiteboard with best effect beating thames winning the thames valley com get a load of this it’s awesome and that is how it is done the future certainly looks very very bright our new zealand under-20 team played the cook islands at dilworth school in auckland this weekend it was epic check it out it’s the last game of the new zealand 20s campaign and we’re here at dillworth 12 p.m on a saturday all blacks and fiji are playing tonight so we’re really excited to be part of a tropical weekend of rugby new zealand under 20 starting off the match with some early baller cook islands on the back foot the new zealand 20s have completely pushed them off the ball a penalty try early 7-0 the forward pack completely muscling up shunting cook islands off the ball now they maul again they pile forward and it’s a try harry press going over from the mall all the possession all the territory early for the under-20s they look to burrow in underneath them showing their muscles early in this one harry pressed from the pick and go he’s bundled under them he’s over 21 to nil the score now harry godfrey on the kick return takes it up nicely beating a few out to aiden morgan he sees him space and puts in a nice weak kick over for michael manson he gets a toe to it recollects excellent try new zealand 20s out to 28 nil now here comes harry press gavigan the tight forwards showing some skill quick ball morgan long over the top it’ll be gideon rampling who sets it out to 35 nil into the second half manu pyre takes a quick tap finds morgan on his shoulder aiden morgan they need quick ball peyer now corey evans beautiful pass over the outstretched hand into godfrey and he’ll go over 42 to nil they’re running riot here the under 20s the young upstarts he’s made an impact coming off the bench over to corey evans godfrey steps inside nice offload back to evans oh he dances past the last defender and corey evans the auckland midfielder goes over fabian holland the big towering lock goes into contact they go blind hasty morgan big fan aiden morgan just shoves him away and sends him to pirate cook savage under the sticks it’s 52 to nil hasty nathan hasty from the back out to higgins he cuts through them nice step back to la kai la quite and nathan hastie will go over extending their lead to 59 danielle new zealand under 20s what a showcase this has been for the next generation of new zealand rugby talent they’re going to push over from the mall here great set piece try the under 20s want to finish with a flourish hasty see space blind will go over and the game is over the new zealand under 20 is taking the win over cook island 73 to nil yeah [Music] second test against fiji and for the big night aaron smith thought he’d wear a skivvy looks good he looks like the sixth member of the commodores but he looks good [Music] big night for sevi reese three tries two kisses one pro feed jam player the other one from a ball and he got a downtrower [Music] i particularly like this coach john plum tree given the bones brad webber shapes up for a handshake but then has to readjust because palm trees all like nah we’re all bones around here boom the best way to see the difference in resources between the two teams is checking out the coaches boxes the all blacks box looks like the bridge on the star trek enterprise in the fijian box wow looks different didn’t it i don’t know who the all blacks banana guy is though check out those macky little things surely they can do better than that but the night wasn’t about bananas it was all about physicality and physicality physicality physicality physicality physicality physical physical physical physical physical physical physical physical [Laughter] [Music] we shouldn’t forget the olympics are just around the corner and one of her very own and well ricky swanell she was swanning around the world here at sky she’s actually swallowing around the world now you’re in tokyo outstanding uh everything looks great how you feeling what’s the environment like over there right now i can see a couple of people in the background there you’re staying well clear is that the way it works yeah pretty much hi team yes quite literally have gone swanning around the globe which after sort of 18 months almost two years has been a little bit strange we are very much keeping our distance i’m obviously not wearing my mask at the moment but roops here on the tech and he’s got his own don behind the camera’s got his on and the very few people who are in the stadium have theirs on as well because stadiums just getting set up really um they’re going through all the tech checks and all the run throughs and all of those kind of things but yeah look it’s been a very interesting few days a lot of hand sanitizing mask wearing a lot of fried chicken has been eaten already it must be said and it is stinking hot it’s still about 38 degrees and we quarter past six at night as you can probably tell not my optimal conditions but it’s good to be here it has to be said ricky do you feel safest jk do you feel safe like i know that before you’re leaving talking about going from a bus to the ground back to the hotel you know how how do you feel you feel okay yeah i must say um the first few days we were here it was pretty quiet um i’ve noticed the last maybe two days in particular today things are a little bit busier and we’ve started to become just a wee bit more conscious like i ain’t getting into a lift with anyone but our sky crew now um lots more sanitizing being really aware of social distancing and that sort of stuff just because people are coming from so many different countries where their covert situation is not like ours and it’s not as good as ours and so um i think for us you know we are getting temperature checked every day we get tested we’ve been tested four times already and we can get tested every day if we want it’s a bit gross um it’s a bit of drooling into a little tube but at the moment yeah i feel safe but i feel like uh the last day or so my senses have sort of been a bit more heightened around that safety and security stuff ricky’s mill’s here but you talk about that you mean everything’s really different for the athletes that are going to come in now talking particularly about our own athletes what’s that going to look like because the pictures that we’re getting obviously everyone in japan has to stay home so is that something they’re going to have to adapt to and is it what you expected yeah it’s going to be completely different for the athletes milsie it’s um they’re only allowed in five days before the start of their competition so right now over the weekend the football ferns came into the new zealand village the hockey teams have arrived the swimmers are here uh david nico our boxer is in but it’s very small groups and and you know usually they’d be coming in on mass this the first sevens crew the sevens men um arrive tomorrow the women don’t come till thursday just because of their playing competition is a few days later but yeah like this stadium behind me which is absolutely beautiful the all blacks played here during rugby world cup it’s going to be empty and it is such a shame that this is not going to be filled with roaring crowds and so i guess however whichever athletes adapt to that that don’t have to feed off the energy of a crowd would could be a really big factor in how they cope mentally and then how they perform but certainly a completely different game to anything i’ve ever experienced and i’m sure for the other athletes as well and lastly ricky and that’s where our sevens team are hopefully going to be chasing gold medals yep exactly right so this is the the sevens venue as i said football firstly but yeah the new zealand men they’re going to be into it on monday cause a bit of news out of sevens uh lately is that the spring box or the blitz blocker coach neil powell has contracted covert he won’t be allowed to coach his team he’ll have to do it remotely and of course the blitz boxer are one of the real contenders but this is where the sevens teams will be the men from monday the women from next thursday so fingers crossed they’re going to get in here over the course of the next week and yeah fingers crossed for a couple of medals hopefully a couple of gold ones from the stadium thanks ricky stay safe we look forward to catching you up up with you when everything gets kicking off in tokyo thanks very much speak to you soon looks happy looks safe i tell you what’s interesting just before we go quickly 4am sunday guess what lions lion’s to win lions to win yeah i think so lions to win i’ll tell you what it takes to never get world cup champion coming all the way just to be different just to be different i said brad thorne too i said brad thorne we’ll see you next week and welcome to the heart of the mighty waikato as the all blacks in fiji lockhorns at fmg stadium in hamilton back down by whitelock now salvia away from unity [Music] [Music] release and that one was a gift on their feet [Applause] still driving still driving and [Applause] [Music]


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